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Hi Superstrings san. Thank you very much for your searching! You needn't to say sorry. It's quick enough!
Hi Trevor san. I don't know too. But I think Agnes hates only the President Bush, and she likes U.S itself. It seems that she love freedom in U.S. And many people and things in the world are in U.S. far more than in Japan. So, I think she wants her kids to be internationally-minded persons.

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Hi Mr. LOW and my friends. Sorry for being late to let you know. I finally found the book. I mean I could not find it until today, although I did have it. ISBN code of the book is ¡È ISBN4-480-92213-X C7082 \1000E ¡È. This may be longer than usual code. But I typed every letters, because I do not know much about the code means. It seems that we still can buy the book on the following web-site. ¡¡¡¡ http://www.amazon.co.jp/exec/obidos/ASIN/448092213X/qid=1095254781/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl/250-4403849-8988207¡¡¡¡ Is it OK?

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Hi LOW, Hope your keeping in good health, also hello Romeo.Can someone please tell me why Agnes sends her children away to the US for further education. I consider Japan to be outstanding when it comes to education, so what have the states got to offer.? Agnes has told us of her dislike for BUSH, & she is not alone. During my world travels i have found AMERICA to be hated by so many people.Not so much the people but more what they stand for, or are trying to seek, which is world domination.Maybe someone can explain why Agnes is supporting their cause by continuing to send her children to such a place. Best whishes to all. Trevor.

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Hi, Everyone.
I have to tell you that I can't upload Agnes' message so frequentry from now. At least, I can't every day. I well know this make you inconvenience, but your complehention is very appreciated.
Thank you.

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Hi Superstrings san. Thank you for your information! And if you know the book's ISBN code or website which deals with the book, please let us know, if possible.

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Hi! I visited here after a long time. I¡Çd like to say THANK YOU to LOW for his effort to run this WEB-site. Hi, Michael. I know some Agnes¡Ç English book. The title of the book is ¡Ö¥¢¥°¥Í¥¹¤Î±Ñ¸ì¤ÇÀ¤³¦¤ò¹Í¤¨¤ë¡×¡¡which means ¡ÈConsider the world in English¡É. This book is for high-school students studying English. This book is a collection of Agnes¡Ç¡¡column in £Á£ó£á£è£é-weekly. And we can read Agnes¡Ç column of the newspaper on the following WEB-SITE. http://www.asahi.com/english/weekly/column/agnes.html She writes the column every month. Please enjoy!

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I'm very sorry for being so late to tell you that Agnes is in Hong Kong from 24th to 28th. The reason why she doesn't upload her message last half a dozen days, may be this.
Hi Michael san. I don't know for sure about her book in Chinese or English except "The Road Winds Uphill All the Way" (MIT Press). If I get information about it, I'll tell you.
Thank you.

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Does any friends knows by any chance new book or previous ones will be release in english and chinese??

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I have to say that I don't translate until 21st this month. I hope you understand. So, please be patient till then.
Thank you.

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This is LOW. Thank you for your visiting.
Till now, August 3rd, I've been unable to confirm Agnes' website since 31st last month. I don't know the cause. My PC? The internet network? Or her website? Anyway, please be patient. As soon as I confirm her website, I will translate.
And her lastest book, "Watashi ga Aishita Nippon," I couldn't find it at some bookstores. So, it would take a bit time to show about it on my website.
Thank you.

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Hi Romeo.
You're welcome. But, I'm not good at English too. The reason why I can translate Japanese into English is that I just happen to know Japanese! I can't translate the feeling of the lyrics. I can translate only just the meaning. Even so, if you want to know the meaning of other song's lyrics, let me know. I try.

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Mr. LOW san Thank you for your translation . But Thanks cannot express all my feeling to you. I try to say some more words other than thanks. But I am not so good in English ..... I really hope to tell you than I love your translation very much :>

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Hi Michael san.
You're welcome!
But, I'm sorry I mistyped some.
I corrected those!

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thankx for the translation!

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the Second Love (original Japanese lyrics: Yasushi Akimoto)

On the street, I happen to meet you, who I thought I had forgotten.
I'm not able to find the words to say you.

Your smile stirs up my ordinary Saturdy, make me recall good old days,
and make me wistful.

My family established with him, who I love second.
My secret fallen into a sleep under the ordinary happiness.
Please don't wake it up.
I do not tell you my cellular number and not ask yours.
You don't exist to me. Please be as is.

If I made a start again in my life,
I would chase you at the night.

I go to an amusement park with my kids.
I have what I must protect.

A future I received from him, who I love second.
It's a small happiness but it's more certain than dream.
So, please go away into the crowd without turning around.
Please stay in a man, who I have not seen for along time and,
who I have loved first.

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Since i don't Japanese, I completely don't understand her recent album. I just like her pleasant voice,.

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Hi everyone.
According her schedule on July, she's gone overseas on 2nd and will return on 9th. He website doesn't say where she went. So, she may not or can not up her message until she return.
Thank you.

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Dear LOW san, Like Romeo, I can't understand Japanese and don't know the meaning of lyrics of Agnes' Japanese song. But I like them very much. William Kwan Hong Kong

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Low San .. I don't understand her song .. :( but I always listen to them.and I love to hear her voice very much.

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Hi Michael san.
I don't listen so well.
What's attracted my interest is 12 Girls Band.
By the way, you and everyone. Do you understand Agnes' recent Japanese songs?

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Anyone also crazy about eurobeat too?

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Thank you Mr. LOW :) I love her new looking .So fresh and nice . I hope I can get it very soon !

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Hi everyone.
The information of Agnes' new song is on her website. I will up it on my website, but wait for a while.
Thank you.

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Hi, friends. Agnes Chan attended the UNICEFF Symposium as a chairman on May 21. We can see the symposium on the following web-site. http://www.unicef.or.jp/siryo/sek_bod_rep.htm# Click the next part.¡¡¡¡¡¡ ¡ü Watch the video on the symposium on UNICEF International Symposium online!¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡ This continues more than two hours, spoken in English. Agnes says we can watch it on TV someday, but happily we can watch it on Internet beforehand.

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Mr. LOW you are right ²æ¹¥³«¿´¡£In Chinese means I am very happy or pleased and ¿¼Õ means Thank you very much !

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Hi
This is LOW. Thank you for your visiting.
I have to say I can't translate Agnes' messages next few days.
Please be patient until first half of the next week.
Thank you.

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Hi Mary san and everyone.
The reason why I didn't translate Agnes' messages for so long, is that she didn't up her messages because of her visit Moldova for UNICEF's mission. She left for Moldova at 10th night and returned on 17th. You would have not needed to worry if I had properly told you the information about her UNICEF's mission. Next time, I will do.
Thank you.

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Hi Mr Low, why no message from Agnes' message page for so long already? The latest one i have was dated 04.04.04. Any thing wrong? Thanks, Mary

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Hi, Mr.LOW and Superstrings: Thanks for rhe information. I really appreciate your taking the time to answer my questions. Much appreciated,

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Hi Superstrings san.
Thank you for your information! My speculation is wrong!

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Agnes¡Çfamily lives in Tokyo now. As LOW mentioned, they built their house and lived in Yokohama when they got married. They moved to Tokyo to let their children go to The International School. They built their home and office in the same building so that they can work together. It¡Çs their policy to make their life considering children in the first place. They didn¡Çt want to work on sacrificing their kids. ¡ÈFamily is important as well as work. Do you best.¡É These are the fundamentals of Agnes and her husband.

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Momoe Yamaguchi san has completely retired. Sori Minani (Cynthia) san had sometimes released single until 1997, but she seems not to be in activity now. Mari Amachi san and Rumiko Kayanagi san are both in activity. Junko Sakurada san is not in activity. Masako Mori san had once retired but has come back recently.
Agnes lives in Tokyo now. Agnes and Tsutomu san (her hubby) built their house in Yokohama when they got married. and lived there for a while. But after a while, they built a new house in Tokyo (present house), moved there and live there now. I don't know for sure why they moved to Tokyo, but maybe, it's for her business.

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Agnes said she's goning to her house in Yokohama. Does she live in Tokyo or Yokohama?

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HI, Mr. Low, Romeo, Mary: Mary, thank you for mentioning about Romeo's website. It sure is very informative and interesting. Romeo, thank you for your time and effort. Same as Mary, I'm so happy to know that Agnes is so active and happy. Mr. Low, could you pls tell me if other singers like Yamaguchi ? and Cynthia (the one who sings the song "seventeen") still active?

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Ya, thanks Mr Romeo, i didnt read properly n i thought that site was done by Mr Low. Mr Romeo, i'm waiting for chapter 7 n so on. U know, when i came to know that agnes was marrying a Japanese, my first thought was "will she be happy" maybe that was just my thought only when i heard that she was marrying a foreigner. i'm very happy that she is still so active and happily married with 3 lovely kids.

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Hi Mary san.
I'm happy to hear you visit the website and enjoyed that. But, that website is not mine. That's Romeos. I just gave him some information. It is Romeo who is building such a nice website. And, I think you, you all should have information which only you know, or which is known around you, area or country. Please tell him anything about Agnes you know. If you do so, that website will become wonderful more and more. It would be happy for him, for me too and for you too!

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Thanks Mr Romeo and Mr Low for yr great efforts in giving all those information about Agnes so that all her fans around the world can have a share of what is going on. Ya, Mr low site introduced by Mr Romeo, I've read up to chapter 6, the rest i cannot go in, i guess they are still under construction. It's real interesting to know about Agnes from birth. Once again, thanks a lot to both of you. pls keep up. Mary

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Agnes¡Çnew essay on Asahi Weekly published this morning. We can read the Article on the following home page. http://www.asahi.com/english/weekly/column/agnes.html This time the essay is serious and gives us many thoughts. It is about Agnes¡Çview on recent circumstances after Iraqi-war. It is worth reading, I think. Thank you.

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Wada san has told me the English names of Agnes' kids. The English name of Kazuhei, her first son, is Arthur. That of Shohei, her second son, is Alex. And that of Kyohei, her third son, is Apollo. All names begin with letter "A," which is the first initial of Agnes! Wada san, thank you very much for your information!

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Hi Ah Mo san.
Cherry blossom has begun to bloom since the middle of March. It's also bloomed in Tokyo. But at the northern part of Japan, not yet. Cherry blossom is the national flower of Japan. You can see cherry blossom almost all around Japan. There are hundreds of major viewing spot. At some palce near by Tokyo, you can see 10,000 trees of cherry blossom. By the way, almost all those cherry trees don't bear cherries.

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Hi, Mr.LOW, When does cherry blossom bloom in Japan? What part of Japan has the most cherry blossom trees? or which is a good place to go to see cherry blossoms?

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Hi Fang Mei SAN nice to know you . You are invite to visit my web site about Agnes http://agneschan.hk.st You will will find Agnes and her children. Please also visit this site http://www.agneschan.org for some of Agnes's history . All information on this WEB are from Mr. LOW. but this site is still under construction.

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Hi Fang Mei san. Thank you for your visiting to my website!
Agnes got married in Dec 25th, 1985, with Mr. Tsutomu Kaneko. He was born in Yokohama in March 17th, 1954. He is a Japanese. He joined the Watanabe Agency which she has once belonged, and began to take charge of her as her manager since about 1982. Then he left the Agency in July 1985 and got married her. In 1987, they established their own office, T & A (Thomas and Agnes). He is the boss of the office. THis also means that he is managing her activities (jobs and others). The office is in Shibuya, Tokyo. The office is at a part of their house.
She now has three kids. All is boy. The first son, Kazuhei (born: Nov. 1st, 1986, in Canada) is now a high school student in U.S. and will go on to university or college in U.S. this year. The second son, Shohei (born: Nov. 3rd, 1989, in U.S.) is now a junior high school student in Janan and will go on to high school in U.S. this year. And the third son, Kyohei (born: Oct. 15th, 1996, in Hong Kong) is now elementary school student in Japan. They have English name but I don't know for sure. I tell you if I find those. They look like her? See them through your own eyes. You can see their photo on Romeo's HK website. Right? Romeo?
Is it O.K., Fang Mei san? Hi Ah Mo san.
The White Day (March 14th) is a day when people give a gift or gifts (mainly candy in Japan) in return to people who gave them a gift or gifts (mainly chocolate) on Valentine's Day.
O.K.? Ah Mo san?

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Hi, Mr. Low, What is White Day?

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I have watched "The Generation Gap" which starred Agnes. It reminded me about her. That is the reason why I searched for her and finally reached this web. I have read her message posted in this web which make me learn more about her. Can you please tell me more about her family, her husband and her children ? I would like to know all about her. At 49 years old, she looks much different from her teenage, but still beautiful. I would like to know if her daugher (if she has daughter) looks like her or not. 1) What does her husband do and what is his nationality ? 2) Is he a Japanese or Hong Kong man ? 3) How old are her children and what do they do ?

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Thank you for the explanation.

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For decoration, almost all Japanese buy the finished dolls by the set. We can buy the dolls at ordinary toy shop. And we usually buy by the set because each doll or each part has meaning in itself and its position, so we do not display the dolls in our own way. For example, in the set I introduced, the master and his wife sit on the top stage. Three women sitting on the next stage, are their maids. This set is not standard. there are various types of set. The price is from cheap one to expensive one. The set I introduced is expesive. Maybe, it would be over 2,000$US. Of course, I think there are sets we can buy under 100$. All Japanese know The Doll Festival and many families with girl display the dolls. Finally, the dolls are usually not porcelain. Almost all parts of the doll are made from clothes, except head. And the head is made by wood.
Do you understand?

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Thanks for the insert showing the dolls for the Doll Festival.Do they buy the plain porcelain doll and then make clothes for them? Where do people buy these dolls? Is this a popular annual festival celebrated all over Japan?

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Sorry Mr Low N Romeo for being so careless. Romeo, pls reply me thru the above e-mail. Thanks. Mary

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Hi
I can't translate next few days. Please be patient until about the middle of the next week!
Thank you.

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Hi Mary san.
I'm sory but I've deleted Romeo's address on your message because that's his personal data. Personal data such as address, age, blood type, religious affiliation and so on, are very delicate information. I hope you understand.
Please listen, you and you all guys.
Therefore, I will quickly DELETE such data on your message when I find.
If you want to contact privately with someone, or to be contacted privately by others, please use e-mail. If you don't want to be known even e-mail address, please ask for help to someone who doesn't mind being known his e-mail address.
Thank you.

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Thanks a lot Mr Romeo, but i dont understand what u mean by the area code for the DVD is 3 n u need a multi code player to play. My son told me that our DVD player is the latest with multi playback. i dont understand what is that also. Maybe our side here latest is a bit wayback at yr side ha.ha.Anyway, to be on a safe side, i think u can help me to get a VCD. by the way, is the image clear or not? Ya, how much do i need to send u including postage? Romeo, is yr address still ... Hongkong? Pls let me know the total cost and yr correct address if the above is not correct. Thanks a lot, Romeo Regards, Mary

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Hi every body Happy new year. Mary I can buy that DVD for you but the area code for that DVD is "3" you need a multi code DVD machine to play the disk. OR may be you can buy the VCD. that will play every whered .. you may send me your address Romeo

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Thanks Mr Low for giving me the web site of Romeo. I've went in n tried to do the purchase but i just can't get it done. I've registered myself already but just cant get to the correct place to do order. I dont know why. Anyway, may I ask Mr Romeo again. Mr Romeo, can I ask u to buy for me, I'll send u a bank draft of HK80 plus including postage and when u have received my draft, then u help me to buy and send over by registered mail, ok or not Mr Romeo. I cant find that DVD here in Sibu. If u will, plse let me know. Thanks a lot. Mary

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Hi Mr Low, Its been a while since i wrote to you. All the best to you and your followers for the new year. Could you or Romeo tell me where i can find the itinerary for the visit to Europe by Agnes this Spring. I understand a visit to the U.K is planned.The itinerary would have to be in English as i dont speak or read Chinese or Japanese. Many thanks, Trevor.

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Hi Ah Mo san.
Yokohama City is about 30km southwest from Tokyo. And indeed, I've lived in Yokohama, but I don't think I could meet Agnes because the lecture she mentioned was for a certain group, so general public wouldn't have been able to enter.
Hi Mary san.
I've linked the website Romeo introduced to the line below. Try this.
http://www.dvdshelf.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/ExecMacro/DVDshelf/search_artist3.d2w/report?style=1&merchant_rn=152&LANGUAGE=2&artist_rn=244810&AUDIO=ON&VIDEO=ON

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Hi Mr Low, well, whether DVD or VCD can do. Hey, sorry to say that the latest message i can find on Romeo's page was dated 03.12.2003. I cant find 30.12.2003.Romeo, sorry I find yr page a bit confusing or maybe I'm not good enough. I tried but i dont know how n where to go. or can u just give me the name of the site where i can go in to order the DVD? Thousands of thanks to you. Good nite and God Bless u for all yr hard work so that all of Agnes' fans round the world can enjoy her latest news. Mary

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Hi, Mr. LOW: Thanks for the explanation.Now I'll know whenever Agnes mentions "my boss", she is referring to her husband. Agnes said she's going to Yokohama. I remember once when you're talking about the weather in Japan, you mentioned Yokohama. Is that where you are from? Will you meet Agnes ? By the way, how far is Yokohama from Tokyo? Is it south or west or east of Tokyo?

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Happy New Year!
Agnes' boss is her husband. Actually, he is a president of Office T&A she belongs. She seldom calls her husband "my husband" or "my hubbie."

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When Agnes said "My boss", does that refer to her husband? or who is this boss? And by the way, Happy New Year of the Monkey to you and Romeo.

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Hi Mary san.
You like VCD, not DVD? The movie Romeo introduceed on Dec. 30th, 2003, is "Young People". But that's DVD. If you interested in the DVD, see his message on the archive page of 2003's guest book. You can enter by clicking the line "***/2003" above.

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Hi Mr Low, Happy New Year to u N Romeo hey, u mention something about 17 years old Agnes. By the way, is there any where to get her first movie entitled "Young People"? I really want to have a VCD on that, how sweet n cute she looked at that time. Thanks. Regards, Mary

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Today, it snowed in large area of southwestern part of Japan including Tokyo and here Yokohama. But in Yokohama, it's a sprinkling of snow, so the snow didn't lie but only wetted ground. Maybe it's the same situation in central Tokyo where Agnes lives. Today's lowest temp. in Central Tokyo was 1.9 degrees. By the way on 14th, when she mentioned "It's cold every day in Tokyo," 3.5 degrees were the lowest. Of course recent lowest temp. in nothern part is often under -10 degrees.

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Thanks for the explanantion. This sure is a very meaningful holiday. I wish we have some formal celebration like this to encourage kids as they move to adulthood. The concept of responsibilty is so important. By the way, Agnes mentioned about the cold weather in Tokyo. What is the temperature?

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In Japan, people who are over 20 years old are regarded as an adlut from legal point of view and become to bear social responsibilities. So, turning 20 is some sort of passing point in the life in Japan. And, the "Coming-of-age Day" was enacted as a national holiday for persons who have newly become adults, which realizes them that they have become adults and which celebrates and encourages them for going to live through by their own self. The Day was originally enacted on fixed day, January 15th, but recently it's changed on the seond Monday in January.

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What is Coming-of -age Day? What does it celebrate?

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Hi Romeo.
Thank you very much for your good information! I wonder that has a English subtitle. Anyway, we can see 17-year-old Agnes!
(See his message on Dec 30th, 2003)