Session Start: Tue Apr 01 00:00:00 2008
Session Ident: #japanese
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[2008/04/01(Tue) 00:56] <itochan_d> e2j japan
[2008/04/01(Tue) 00:56] <itochan_d> （どれだったっけ
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[2008/04/01(Tue) 01:16] <lita> hjhjgyu;'
[2008/04/01(Tue) 01:16] <lita> ei
[2008/04/01(Tue) 01:16] <lita> hello
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[2008/04/01(Tue) 02:02] <hikomen> hiiiiii
[2008/04/01(Tue) 02:02] <hikomen> anybody there?
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[2008/04/01(Tue) 02:31] <Ferrum> �焉E
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[2008/04/01(Tue) 15:42] <Kleo> ﾏ�鞣蛛E!! :))))))))))))))
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[2008/04/01(Tue) 16:30] <itochan_d2> こんばんは
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[2008/04/01(Tue) 16:38] <Lasse> Hello!
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[2008/04/01(Tue) 22:54] <saitos> こんばんは
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Session Time: Wed Apr 02 00:00:00 2008
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[2008/04/02(Wed) 01:09] <itochan_d2> konbanwa
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[2008/04/02(Wed) 01:19] <Touri> hello :)
[2008/04/02(Wed) 01:22] <itochan_d> hola
[2008/04/02(Wed) 01:23] <Touri> do you speak English, parlez vous Francaise, sprechen Sie Deutsch?
[2008/04/02(Wed) 01:23] <Touri> :)
[2008/04/02(Wed) 01:23] <itochan_d> 日本語でお願いします。
[2008/04/02(Wed) 01:24] <Touri> oh, cannot reade this
[2008/04/02(Wed) 01:26] <itochan_d> Japanese, please
[2008/04/02(Wed) 01:27] <Touri> I am German, cannot, sorry
[2008/04/02(Wed) 01:30] <itochan_d> what time is it at Germany?
[2008/04/02(Wed) 01:30] <itochan_d> it is 01:30 now in Japan
[2008/04/02(Wed) 01:31] <Touri> 6:29 pm in Germany
[2008/04/02(Wed) 01:31] <Touri> we use to say: 18:29 
[2008/04/02(Wed) 01:32] <Touri> I am only 7 hours behind you :)
[2008/04/02(Wed) 01:32] <itochan_d> good evening ^_<
[2008/04/02(Wed) 01:32] <Touri> good Evening :-)
[2008/04/02(Wed) 01:32] <Touri> you don't sleep now?
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[2008/04/02(Wed) 01:34] <itochan_d>  I already slept (?)
[2008/04/02(Wed) 01:34] <Touri> oooh, sorry
[2008/04/02(Wed) 01:35] <itochan_d> I shall sleep at 0300 today, maybe
[2008/04/02(Wed) 01:35] <Touri> why so late?
[2008/04/02(Wed) 01:36] <Touri> don't you have to work in a few hours?
[2008/04/02(Wed) 01:36] <itochan_d> I don't know why...
[2008/04/02(Wed) 01:37] <Touri> I live in the near of France
[2008/04/02(Wed) 01:37] <Touri> in Germany
[2008/04/02(Wed) 01:38] <Touri> It is the first time in my life I talk to a Japaneese and this makes me happy
[2008/04/02(Wed) 01:39] <itochan_d> I live in a very small island named Japan, so nice to meet you.
[2008/04/02(Wed) 01:39] <Touri> thank you :) I know Japan only by TV
[2008/04/02(Wed) 01:40] <itochan_d> so as Greman for me
[2008/04/02(Wed) 01:40] <itochan_d> *german
[2008/04/02(Wed) 01:40] <Touri> very nice and I enjoy it :)
[2008/04/02(Wed) 01:51] <Touri> I hope not to disturb too much?
[2008/04/02(Wed) 01:52] <itochan_d> no, sir :)
[2008/04/02(Wed) 01:54] <Touri> I am a woman :)
[2008/04/02(Wed) 01:55] <Touri> :D
[2008/04/02(Wed) 01:57] <itochan_d> sorry, madam
[2008/04/02(Wed) 01:58] <itochan_d> ( next .. age check :D
[2008/04/02(Wed) 01:58] <Touri> no mind :) I have a family with one daughter
[2008/04/02(Wed) 01:58] <Touri> lol
[2008/04/02(Wed) 01:58] <Touri> me not the youngest.......
[2008/04/02(Wed) 01:58] <Touri> and you?
[2008/04/02(Wed) 01:59] <itochan_d> not married
[2008/04/02(Wed) 01:59] <Touri> you are young?
[2008/04/02(Wed) 01:59] <itochan_d> I hope so
[2008/04/02(Wed) 02:00] <Touri> are you a man or a woman (safety question :D )
[2008/04/02(Wed) 02:00] <itochan_d> not female :P
[2008/04/02(Wed) 02:01] <Touri> you are young, not married, a man so I guess not to have to say Sir?
[2008/04/02(Wed) 02:01] <Touri> ;)
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[2008/04/02(Wed) 02:03] <itochan_d> no, not young
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[2008/04/02(Wed) 02:03] <Touri> not?
[2008/04/02(Wed) 02:04] <itochan_d> >I hope so
[2008/04/02(Wed) 02:04] <Touri> oh, free flight to SaKuRa......
[2008/04/02(Wed) 02:04] <Touri> please, how does it come that so many people are here but don't talk together?
[2008/04/02(Wed) 02:05] <Touri> or ist this a forbidden question?
[2008/04/02(Wed) 02:07] <Touri> do you know the searching engine named Google? It won't translate from Japanese into German :(
[2008/04/02(Wed) 02:07] <itochan_d> probably they only logged in, and be away from keyboard
[2008/04/02(Wed) 02:08] <Touri> I think so, too
[2008/04/02(Wed) 02:08] <itochan_d> try to translate Japanese to English
[2008/04/02(Wed) 02:08] <Touri> ah, good idea
[2008/04/02(Wed) 02:13] <Touri> it doesn't work :(
[2008/04/02(Wed) 02:14] <Touri> Not in Browser Firefox Mozilla
[2008/04/02(Wed) 02:15] <Touri> it only wants to translate into German. Didn't find into English so I tried with French. But it doesn't work
[2008/04/02(Wed) 02:17] <itochan_d> http://www.google.com/translate_t?langpair=de|en
[2008/04/02(Wed) 02:17] -CzBot:#japanese- Google Translate [text/html; charset=UTF-8]
[2008/04/02(Wed) 02:18] <itochan_d> langpair=ja|en
[2008/04/02(Wed) 02:18] <Touri> thank you :) you are very friendly  :) :)
[2008/04/02(Wed) 02:18] <itochan_d> langpair=ja|en > langpair=en|de
[2008/04/02(Wed) 02:18] <Touri> aaaaaah thank you :):) I will try
[2008/04/02(Wed) 02:26] <itochan_d> can you tell me the most favorite portal site in German?
[2008/04/02(Wed) 02:27] <itochan_d> yahoo.de ?
[2008/04/02(Wed) 02:30] <Touri> the most favorite? Sorry, no, I don't know which site will be visited mostly
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[2008/04/02(Wed) 02:34] <Touri> we need a word for searching
[2008/04/02(Wed) 02:34] <Touri> or category
[2008/04/02(Wed) 02:35] <Touri> or: pictures, Video, local searching, shopping
[2008/04/02(Wed) 02:36] <Touri> or if you will look for news, films, clothes, Ebay or anything else
[2008/04/02(Wed) 02:36] <Touri> only to open the searching engine won't bring far
[2008/04/02(Wed) 02:38] <itochan_d> everything/ a portal
[2008/04/02(Wed) 02:38] <Touri> I only need Browsers to open my favorite sites
[2008/04/02(Wed) 02:38] <Touri> but I guess this won't be very interesting to you
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[2008/04/02(Wed) 02:39] <itochan_d> in japan, still yahoo.co.jp is most popular
[2008/04/02(Wed) 02:39] <Touri> don't leaving people say good night before they are leaving?
[2008/04/02(Wed) 02:39] <Touri> I will try if I can open this site and then I hope to know better what you are looking for
[2008/04/02(Wed) 02:40] <Touri> you are looking for comic sites?
[2008/04/02(Wed) 02:41] <itochan_d> I guess that   they automatically logged in, and automatically log out when they power off their PC
[2008/04/02(Wed) 02:42] <Touri> yes, I have found the same here: http://de.yahoo.com/
[2008/04/02(Wed) 02:42] -CzBot:#japanese- Yahoo! Deutschland [text/html; charset=UTF-8]
[2008/04/02(Wed) 02:42] <itochan_d> aha
[2008/04/02(Wed) 02:43] <itochan_d> but you say you don't use it LOL
[2008/04/02(Wed) 02:43] <Touri> when I open it, the same comes for the German
[2008/04/02(Wed) 02:44] <Touri> because in Germany Mozilla Firefox opens Google sites and Internet Explorer sometimes opens aol and sometimes msn
[2008/04/02(Wed) 02:45] <Touri> sometimes I like to search by yahoo but then I will get the result and not the front page
[2008/04/02(Wed) 02:47] <itochan_d> aol and msn ?
[2008/04/02(Wed) 02:48] <Touri> I have to say I am not sure in using browsers, because all the time I founded what I am looking for....
[2008/04/02(Wed) 02:48] <itochan_d> ok, you usually use browser's default search sites
[2008/04/02(Wed) 02:48] <Touri> Internet explorer does it the last time, yes
[2008/04/02(Wed) 02:51] <itochan_d> why don't you use Opera browser? ( I use Opera and Google almost everytime
[2008/04/02(Wed) 02:54] <Touri> if you use the searching machines you will find first firms who pay for to be read first..... then will follow the most visited sites to this topics
[2008/04/02(Wed) 02:54] <Touri> I don't know how to use Opera right. I am glad to reach my chatrooms
[2008/04/02(Wed) 02:56] <itochan_d> http://de.opera.com/
[2008/04/02(Wed) 02:56] -CzBot:#japanese- [application/xml]
[2008/04/02(Wed) 02:56] <Touri> And I am not very glad about opera
[2008/04/02(Wed) 02:57] <Touri> but I am learning something for this I need the chatroom of Opera
[2008/04/02(Wed) 03:01] <itochan_d> hmmm ( what to say ...
[2008/04/02(Wed) 03:03] <itochan_d> each browser is good when you can find you are looking for
[2008/04/02(Wed) 03:03] <itochan_d> and
[2008/04/02(Wed) 03:03] <itochan_d> there is a bit different in user experiense
[2008/04/02(Wed) 03:04] <Touri> yes
[2008/04/02(Wed) 03:04] <itochan_d> I dislike IE because it has too low security
[2008/04/02(Wed) 03:04] <Touri> http://www.comic.de/neues/leipzig2008/cos.html
[2008/04/02(Wed) 03:04] -CzBot:#japanese- comic.de: Buchmesse Leipzig 2008 - Cosplay [text/html]
[2008/04/02(Wed) 03:04] <Touri> are you looking for something like this?
[2008/04/02(Wed) 03:04] <itochan_d> ^_^;
[2008/04/02(Wed) 03:05] <Touri> that's true for this I use Firefox
[2008/04/02(Wed) 03:06] <itochan_d> ehm,  low priority for me ( not zero
[2008/04/02(Wed) 03:08] <Touri> I have a very good security
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[2008/04/02(Wed) 03:08] <Touri> because sometimes I have to use IE
[2008/04/02(Wed) 03:09] <itochan_d> :P
[2008/04/02(Wed) 03:09] <Touri> but I am working with my computer and need the Browser only to go into Internet
[2008/04/02(Wed) 03:10] <Touri> I have to reach my homepage on any way :)
[2008/04/02(Wed) 03:10] <Touri> but sorry I have to leave now because I have to work at my webradio station now
[2008/04/02(Wed) 03:11] <Touri> thank you very, very much. I enjoyed it to talk to Japan :) :) :)
[2008/04/02(Wed) 03:11] <itochan_d> thank you very much.
[2008/04/02(Wed) 03:11] <itochan_d> could I have your homepage URL ?
[2008/04/02(Wed) 03:11] <Touri> http://www.astroradio-planet.de/site/
[2008/04/02(Wed) 03:11] -CzBot:#japanese- AstroRadio-Planet.de Ihr AstroRadio im Internet [text/html; charset=]
[2008/04/02(Wed) 03:12] <Touri> yes :)
[2008/04/02(Wed) 03:12] <itochan_d> Thank you. I will go later.
[2008/04/02(Wed) 03:12] <itochan_d> I *will* go to see later , I go to sleep now.
[2008/04/02(Wed) 03:13] <Touri> http://astroradio-planet.de:2305
[2008/04/02(Wed) 03:13] -CzBot:#japanese- #<EOFError: end of file reached>
[2008/04/02(Wed) 03:13] <Touri> this is the url to listen
[2008/04/02(Wed) 03:13] <Touri> Windows Mediaplayer or WinAmp
[2008/04/02(Wed) 03:13] <itochan_d> thank you again.
[2008/04/02(Wed) 03:13] <Touri> the whole time Playlist were running but now I have to work
[2008/04/02(Wed) 03:14] <itochan_d> bye now (at 03:14
[2008/04/02(Wed) 03:14] <Touri> it was a pleasure to talk to people living in Japan, thank you very much
[2008/04/02(Wed) 03:14] <Touri> eight o'clock evening in Germany :)
[2008/04/02(Wed) 03:14] <Touri> the next 2 hours I have to work now
[2008/04/02(Wed) 03:14] <Touri> and much music
[2008/04/02(Wed) 03:15] <itochan_d> good night -_-
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[2008/04/02(Wed) 03:15] <Touri> good night
[2008/04/02(Wed) 03:15] <Touri> have a well sleep
[2008/04/02(Wed) 03:15] <Touri> oh gone......
[2008/04/02(Wed) 03:15] <Touri> so I also have to say bye-bye for now, have all a good time, good night Japan :)
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[2008/04/02(Wed) 03:22] <SaKuRa> !���閨E籵�� �G・
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[2008/04/02(Wed) 03:23] <Touri> now I am gone :)
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[2008/04/02(Wed) 07:30] <Tanja> :|
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[2008/04/02(Wed) 16:33] <Aaipiro> hi
[2008/04/02(Wed) 16:33] <Aaipiro> konichiwa
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[2008/04/02(Wed) 23:54] <itochan_d> こんばんは
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[2008/04/03(Thu) 01:45] <hasanlev> hi for all
[2008/04/03(Thu) 01:45] <hasanlev> ・鞣褪 糂褌
[2008/04/03(Thu) 01:45] <hasanlev> ﾅ��・・・�蛛E・???
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[2008/04/03(Thu) 05:55] <RikoZG> Hi Japan
[2008/04/03(Thu) 05:55] <RikoZG> x)
[2008/04/03(Thu) 05:55] <RikoZG>  '< 
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[2008/04/03(Thu) 17:45] <ksrdii> nata dare deska?
[2008/04/03(Thu) 17:46] <ksrdii> gomen ne!
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[2008/04/04(Fri) 01:21] <mina> hi
[2008/04/04(Fri) 01:21] <mina> natashi
[2008/04/04(Fri) 01:21] <mina> haniko
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[2008/04/04(Fri) 01:25] <mina> Bot???????????????
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[2008/04/04(Fri) 01:35] <itochan_d> すみません、誰かいませんか？
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[2008/04/04(Fri) 04:52] <ShadyPunk> hello
[2008/04/04(Fri) 04:53] <ShadyPunk> ogenki desuka
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[2008/04/04(Fri) 20:15] <nano> hi to all
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[2008/04/04(Fri) 23:58] <itochan_d> こん
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[2008/04/05(Sat) 00:04] <Crowler> ばんは
[2008/04/05(Sat) 00:06] <itochan_d> ばんは
[2008/04/05(Sat) 00:09] <Crowler> western digitalのhddは日本にいるですか
[2008/04/05(Sat) 00:12] <itochan_d> これ？ http://www.wdc.com/jp/index.asp
[2008/04/05(Sat) 00:12] -CzBot:#japanese- Western　Digital　ハードドライブ [text/html]
[2008/04/05(Sat) 00:13] <Crowler> はい
[2008/04/05(Sat) 00:18] <Crowler> well, not exactly what i thought of )
[2008/04/05(Sat) 00:19] <itochan_d> :(
[2008/04/05(Sat) 00:20] <Crowler> i would like to compare warranty period with hdd's of other wendors, and i thought that you will give me site of some well known japanese pc hardware shop )
[2008/04/05(Sat) 00:21] <Crowler> vendors*
[2008/04/05(Sat) 00:24] <itochan_d> sorry, I don't know. ( http://www.coneco.net/speclist.asp?CATEGORY1=0120&CATEGORY2=10&CATEGORY3=40&FREE_WORD=western%20digital&SPEC=1
[2008/04/05(Sat) 00:24] -CzBot:#japanese- #<Timeout::Error: execution expired>
[2008/04/05(Sat) 00:25] <itochan_d> ( again http://www.coneco.net/list_catemaker/01201040/V2VzdGVybiBEaWdpdGFsKFdEKS+DRYNGg1iDXoOTgUWDZoNXg16Diw==.html
[2008/04/05(Sat) 00:25] -CzBot:#japanese- #<Timeout::Error: execution expired>
[2008/04/05(Sat) 00:26] <itochan_d> ( aah...
[2008/04/05(Sat) 00:27] <Crowler> coneco )
[2008/04/05(Sat) 00:27] <Crowler> sound like "kitty"
[2008/04/05(Sat) 00:28] <itochan_d> yes.
[2008/04/05(Sat) 00:29] <Crowler> wow, time to remember katakana
[2008/04/05(Sat) 00:30] <Crowler> !e 検索
[2008/04/05(Sat) 00:30] <Crowler> !j 検索
[2008/04/05(Sat) 00:31] <Crowler> oops
[2008/04/05(Sat) 00:31] <Crowler> -_-
[2008/04/05(Sat) 00:31] <Crowler> look like "description" though
[2008/04/05(Sat) 00:32] <itochan_d> how are you studying katakana?
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[2008/04/05(Sat) 00:34] <Crowler> heh, i come to some site, see "マザーボード" and http://img.coneco.net/co/1080324018.gif under )
[2008/04/05(Sat) 00:34] -CzBot:#japanese- GIF Image, 128x128 11KB
[2008/04/05(Sat) 00:35] <Crowler> so this turns out to be "mazeeboodo" )
[2008/04/05(Sat) 00:36] <faken2> i cant figure it out
[2008/04/05(Sat) 00:36] <itochan_d> aha, mother board = mazaaboodo
[2008/04/05(Sat) 00:36] <Crowler> sure
[2008/04/05(Sat) 00:36] <faken2> i can understand uzeeboard
[2008/04/05(Sat) 00:36] <itochan_d> or maza-bo-do
[2008/04/05(Sat) 00:37] <itochan_d> LOL
[2008/04/05(Sat) 00:37] <Crowler> thats the way i "learn" japanese )
[2008/04/05(Sat) 00:38] <faken2> itochanこんばんは
[2008/04/05(Sat) 00:39] <itochan_d> こんばんは
[2008/04/05(Sat) 00:39] <faken2> ねむいなあ
[2008/04/05(Sat) 00:40] <faken2> おおどようびになったか
[2008/04/05(Sat) 00:40] <itochan_d> 寝てたんですか？　テレビでしたか？
[2008/04/05(Sat) 00:40] <faken2> てらじラジオきいてた
[2008/04/05(Sat) 00:40] <faken2> http://www.ustream.tv/channel/terrazi
[2008/04/05(Sat) 00:41] -CzBot:#japanese- Ustream.tv - TERRAZI [text/html]
[2008/04/05(Sat) 00:41] <faken2> 今日テレビつけたのは地震の時だけ
[2008/04/05(Sat) 00:42] <faken2> 風呂入ろうとしてた時だから、大きかったらヤバイといろいろ心配した
[2008/04/05(Sat) 00:42] <faken2> 裸で避難するのは嫌だ
[2008/04/05(Sat) 00:43] <itochan_d> ｗｗｗ
[2008/04/05(Sat) 00:44] <faken2> http://www.sharenator.com/If_browsers_were_women/234.html
[2008/04/05(Sat) 00:44] -CzBot:#japanese- If browsers were women - Sharenator.com [text/html]
[2008/04/05(Sat) 00:46] <faken2> IEの言われように泣けた
[2008/04/05(Sat) 00:46] <itochan_d> >she just puts so much stuff in your memory!
[2008/04/05(Sat) 00:46] <itochan_d> メモリを食うよ、　って意味？
[2008/04/05(Sat) 00:46] <faken2> かけことば
[2008/04/05(Sat) 00:47] <faken2> こぴられないようにgifになってる
[2008/04/05(Sat) 00:49] <itochan_d> >she won't you let inside   これはプラグインとかが追加できない意味かな
[2008/04/05(Sat) 00:49] <itochan_d> （Operaね
[2008/04/05(Sat) 00:49] <itochan_d> プラグインじゃない、アドオン
[2008/04/05(Sat) 00:49] <faken2> OSSじゃないってのに
[2008/04/05(Sat) 00:49] <faken2> かけてるんでしょ
[2008/04/05(Sat) 00:50] <Crowler> they mean, its not "open source"
[2008/04/05(Sat) 00:50] <itochan_d> なるほど。
[2008/04/05(Sat) 00:51] <itochan_d> OSSだと…あんまり変わらない気がする
[2008/04/05(Sat) 00:51] <itochan_d> MozillaはOSSだけど、だからどうという感覚的違いはないです
[2008/04/05(Sat) 00:52] <faken2> Firefoxは交際が長くなってゆくと、肥大化しそうでww
[2008/04/05(Sat) 00:53] <itochan_d> アドオンでしょ？メモリリークの方？
[2008/04/05(Sat) 00:54] <Crowler> btw, here in russian is "ya plakal" with exactly the same meaning as 泣けた in faken2's phrase :)
[2008/04/05(Sat) 00:55] <faken2> ya plakal
[2008/04/05(Sat) 00:55] <Crowler> )
[2008/04/05(Sat) 00:56] <faken2> Спасибо！
[2008/04/05(Sat) 00:57] <Crowler> (its very informal) use with care )
[2008/04/05(Sat) 00:57] <Crowler> не за что
[2008/04/05(Sat) 00:57] <faken2> oh i can paste russian!
[2008/04/05(Sat) 00:57] <itochan_d> （ほほぅ
[2008/04/05(Sat) 00:57] <faken2> Хорошо
[2008/04/05(Sat) 00:58] <itochan_d> Firefox＝USA、 Opera＝Europe、Safari ？、IE ？ って流れだと何？
[2008/04/05(Sat) 00:59] <itochan_d> （usaってあれでもないのかな？　交際が長いと肥大化
[2008/04/05(Sat) 00:59] <faken2> Safari? Africa
[2008/04/05(Sat) 00:59] <itochan_d> アフリカなのか…
[2008/04/05(Sat) 00:59] <itochan_d> じゃあIEは中国かどこかｗ
[2008/04/05(Sat) 01:00] <itochan_d> 過去のアメリカ？
[2008/04/05(Sat) 01:00] <faken2> IE = Ai Eh
[2008/04/05(Sat) 01:00] <faken2> or I eat
[2008/04/05(Sat) 01:01] <faken2> even worm or bug
[2008/04/05(Sat) 01:02] <Crowler> )
[2008/04/05(Sat) 01:02] <faken2> and horse (of Troy)
[2008/04/05(Sat) 01:02] <Crowler> IE=noobs or lazy ppl
[2008/04/05(Sat) 01:02] <faken2> such things are called BlackHole
[2008/04/05(Sat) 01:03] <Crowler> Safari=exotic lovers
[2008/04/05(Sat) 01:03] <Crowler> exotic's*
[2008/04/05(Sat) 01:04] <faken2> Я　люблю рубль
[2008/04/05(Sat) 01:05] <Crowler> oh, dont say that. rounle is still quite unstable to love it
[2008/04/05(Sat) 01:05] <Crowler> rouble*
[2008/04/05(Sat) 01:05] <faken2> hehe
[2008/04/05(Sat) 01:06] <Crowler> but we have to use what we have here and now
[2008/04/05(Sat) 01:07] <faken2> someday you will use euro? :)
[2008/04/05(Sat) 01:07] <Crowler> that does mean, we will use euro in very far future
[2008/04/05(Sat) 01:08] <faken2> humm
[2008/04/05(Sat) 01:09] <Crowler> rich europe doesnt have too much will to unite with poor parts of former ussr
[2008/04/05(Sat) 01:09] <faken2> in siberia, some may use Yens or Renminbi　:(
[2008/04/05(Sat) 01:10] <faken2> just joking
[2008/04/05(Sat) 01:10] <Crowler> i dont blame them
[2008/04/05(Sat) 01:11] <faken2> you look siberia quite different?
[2008/04/05(Sat) 01:12] <Crowler> we have to get out of post-soviet mess by our own self
[2008/04/05(Sat) 01:13] <Crowler> i meant europe
[2008/04/05(Sat) 01:13] <faken2> we have strong exotic feelings towards siberia
[2008/04/05(Sat) 01:13] <faken2> we live on the small silands
[2008/04/05(Sat) 01:13] <faken2> islands*
[2008/04/05(Sat) 01:14] <faken2> continental countries are our dreams in many senses
[2008/04/05(Sat) 01:15] <Crowler> everyone want to expand
[2008/04/05(Sat) 01:15] <faken2> this evening we had earth quake, for example :)
[2008/04/05(Sat) 01:15] <faken2> you dont have it there?
[2008/04/05(Sat) 01:15] <Crowler> no, we are living on a plane
[2008/04/05(Sat) 01:16] <faken2> really envy you
[2008/04/05(Sat) 01:16] <Crowler> no mountains, no volcanos
[2008/04/05(Sat) 01:16] <Crowler> you can expand into siberia through trade
[2008/04/05(Sat) 01:17] <faken2> yes, but recently, meny countries look at it
[2008/04/05(Sat) 01:17] <Crowler> i heard, there is a lot of japanese cars
[2008/04/05(Sat) 01:17] <faken2> gas, oil and minerals there
[2008/04/05(Sat) 01:18] <Crowler> china sells a lot of cheap stuff there
[2008/04/05(Sat) 01:18] <faken2> and iced mammoth
[2008/04/05(Sat) 01:18] <Crowler> heh
[2008/04/05(Sat) 01:19] <faken2> its 25:19 now
[2008/04/05(Sat) 01:19] <faken2> nice to talk to u
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[2008/04/05(Sat) 01:20] <saitos> good night
[2008/04/05(Sat) 01:20] <Crowler> you know, if (hypothetically) some real sh*t happen
[2008/04/05(Sat) 01:20] <Crowler> i think, russia will help, if you will need it
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[2008/04/05(Sat) 01:22] <itochan_d> えと、質問があるのですが時間ありますか？
[2008/04/05(Sat) 01:22] <Crowler> but for now, here still is unused territory in japan
[2008/04/05(Sat) 01:23] <itochan_d> あれ？いつのまにsaitos？ｗ
[2008/04/05(Sat) 01:23] <itochan_d> 遅かった…
[2008/04/05(Sat) 01:23] <Crowler> he forgot to enter password
[2008/04/05(Sat) 01:25] <Crowler> of what i heard, northern part of japan is quite abundant place
[2008/04/05(Sat) 01:26] * Parts: Alex
[2008/04/05(Sat) 01:26] <itochan_d> siberia, there is a lot of Methane gas, which cause global warming
[2008/04/05(Sat) 01:27] <Crowler> hehe
[2008/04/05(Sat) 01:27] <Crowler> ppl burning that gas causes global warming
[2008/04/05(Sat) 01:27] <itochan_d> abundant .. what ?
[2008/04/05(Sat) 01:28] <itochan_d> rich of what ?
[2008/04/05(Sat) 01:28] <Crowler> oops
[2008/04/05(Sat) 01:28] <Crowler> look like i used wrong word
[2008/04/05(Sat) 01:29] <Crowler> i wanted to say, there live not much ppl, because of cold climate
[2008/04/05(Sat) 01:30] <itochan_d> no, not burning, it has more heat shielding effect(?) than CO2.
[2008/04/05(Sat) 01:30] <itochan_d> ah
[2008/04/05(Sat) 01:31] <Crowler> ehm... gas lies _under_ the earth surface
[2008/04/05(Sat) 01:32] <itochan_d> I think there live not much people because there is countryside ( rural )
[2008/04/05(Sat) 01:34] <Crowler> im not sure
[2008/04/05(Sat) 01:34] <itochan_d> many ppl come into Tokyo from any countryside
[2008/04/05(Sat) 01:35] <Crowler> in times of WW2, almost all production facilities were moved into siberia by Stalin
[2008/04/05(Sat) 01:36] <itochan_d> I guess if Tokyo is at the nothern part of Japan ... :)
[2008/04/05(Sat) 01:36] <itochan_d> siberia is too much cold
[2008/04/05(Sat) 01:37] <Crowler> you are just very sensitive to nature
[2008/04/05(Sat) 01:38] <itochan_d> yes, yes, toooo much cold
[2008/04/05(Sat) 01:38] <Crowler> you are dont like to live in warm houses, because you want to feel nature
[2008/04/05(Sat) 01:39] <Crowler> more to say, to feel it in your, very special way
[2008/04/05(Sat) 01:39] <itochan_d> yes I like
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[2008/04/05(Sat) 01:39] <itochan_d> I hate that special way ;'(
[2008/04/05(Sat) 01:40] <itochan_d> I dislike that special way :'(
[2008/04/05(Sat) 01:40] <Crowler> but this, special way, is limited by not so wide climatic zone
[2008/04/05(Sat) 01:40] <itochan_d> ( live as homeless :'(
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[2008/04/05(Sat) 01:41] <Crowler> i dont know, that saitos thought, but even if you come to siberia, 
[2008/04/05(Sat) 01:42] <Crowler> you will not be able to live traditional japanese way
[2008/04/05(Sat) 01:42] <Crowler> -60C cold will teach you very fast and efficiently
[2008/04/05(Sat) 01:44] <Crowler> those, who will change yourself, automatically stop to be 100% pure japanese
[2008/04/05(Sat) 01:46] <Crowler> every choice will be bad
[2008/04/05(Sat) 01:46] <itochan_d> I think so too
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[2008/04/05(Sat) 01:47] <itochan_d> (in winter.
[2008/04/05(Sat) 01:47] <Crowler> something have to change
[2008/04/05(Sat) 01:47] <itochan_d> no
[2008/04/05(Sat) 01:47] <itochan_d> everything have to change ^_^
[2008/04/05(Sat) 01:49] <Crowler> but if you expect to change climate (because of global warming) it will take some _generations_ to pass
[2008/04/05(Sat) 01:50] <Crowler> so there will be no profit for every one of you, personally
[2008/04/05(Sat) 01:50] <itochan_d> ah , I guess global warming make Siberia change into more cold
[2008/04/05(Sat) 01:51] <Crowler> why so?
[2008/04/05(Sat) 01:51] <itochan_d> wait ( 異常気象
[2008/04/05(Sat) 01:51] <Crowler> ok
[2008/04/05(Sat) 01:52] <itochan_d> thanks
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[2008/04/05(Sat) 01:52] <itochan_d> > abnormal weather
[2008/04/05(Sat) 01:55] <itochan_d> that change the way of wind, so I expect hot area of the globe becomes hotter, and cold area of the globe becomes colder.
[2008/04/05(Sat) 01:55] <Crowler> you mean so called "cold pole", where -70C is possible?
[2008/04/05(Sat) 01:55] <itochan_d> oops / that = global warming effect
[2008/04/05(Sat) 01:56] <Crowler> i got it
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[2008/04/05(Sat) 01:58] <Crowler> heh, but what then is meaning of word "global" in "global warming effect"? ))
[2008/04/05(Sat) 01:58] <itochan_d> I don't know
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[2008/04/05(Sat) 01:59] <Crowler> this going to be very strange "global" )
[2008/04/05(Sat) 01:59] <itochan_d> totally globe become hotter, desert area increase, pole-ice melt,
[2008/04/05(Sat) 02:01] <Crowler> yes
[2008/04/05(Sat) 02:01] <Crowler> but dont tell me that all it ends on our border with china ))
[2008/04/05(Sat) 02:01] <itochan_d> avarage temperature of the world increase.
[2008/04/05(Sat) 02:02] <itochan_d> anyway,
[2008/04/05(Sat) 02:03] <itochan_d> I am sure the human kill this world.
[2008/04/05(Sat) 02:03] <Crowler> )
[2008/04/05(Sat) 02:04] <itochan_d> America or Japan says
[2008/04/05(Sat) 02:04] <Crowler> at that time, we will learn enough to build _useful_ spaceships
[2008/04/05(Sat) 02:05] <itochan_d> 経済活動に影響を与えない範囲で、地球温暖化対策を行う
[2008/04/05(Sat) 02:06] <Crowler> ooh
[2008/04/05(Sat) 02:06] <Crowler> this will take hour to decipher
[2008/04/05(Sat) 02:06] <itochan_d> that is too less
[2008/04/05(Sat) 02:07] <itochan_d> they do counter measures against global warming
[2008/04/05(Sat) 02:09] <itochan_d> not to affect (each) national economy .
[2008/04/05(Sat) 02:09] <Crowler> i will leave this place forever in nearest 40 years
[2008/04/05(Sat) 02:10] <itochan_d>  ; without damaging  national economy.
[2008/04/05(Sat) 02:10] <Crowler> thats my honest point of view on all this
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[2008/04/05(Sat) 02:12] <Crowler> and even if i somehow return, i dont care how many legs or eyes i will have
[2008/04/05(Sat) 02:12] <Crowler> humans adapts
[2008/04/05(Sat) 02:13] <itochan_d> ecology is most important now, or we die.
[2008/04/05(Sat) 02:13] <Crowler> to the point, where they stop to be humans
[2008/04/05(Sat) 02:14] <Crowler> but then no one "normal" human left to say that
[2008/04/05(Sat) 02:15] <Crowler> the meaning of "norm" is not constant
[2008/04/05(Sat) 02:15] <itochan_d> ehm, politician already stop human (in their brain)
[2008/04/05(Sat) 02:16] <Crowler> do you really think so?
[2008/04/05(Sat) 02:16] <Crowler> i think, they are show their _real human nature_
[2008/04/05(Sat) 02:17] <itochan_d> ^_^
[2008/04/05(Sat) 02:17] <itochan_d> they think as they are super-human, and they act as _real human nature_
[2008/04/05(Sat) 02:18] <Crowler> im really treat ppl bad, because i know, ppl are weak
[2008/04/05(Sat) 02:20] <Crowler> and they're still monkeys under their skin
[2008/04/05(Sat) 02:20] <Crowler> and "civilisation" easy comes off, when hard time comes
[2008/04/05(Sat) 02:21] <Crowler> or when ppl get power
[2008/04/05(Sat) 02:22] <itochan_d> very many of politicians in Japan expect they can control the nature, however most Japanese don't think so.
[2008/04/05(Sat) 02:22] <itochan_d> Japanese civilian
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[2008/04/05(Sat) 02:23] <Crowler> so we are exactly same politicians, just without power
[2008/04/05(Sat) 02:24] <itochan_d> we have the sentence, to become politician, we must have "san-ban" ;地盤、看板、カバン
[2008/04/05(Sat) 02:25] <Crowler> when you have a choice, to kill 10000 ppl or 20000 ppl you kill those 10000
[2008/04/05(Sat) 02:26] <Crowler> politicians resolves problems like this
[2008/04/05(Sat) 02:27] <Crowler> they are just have such job
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[2008/04/05(Sat) 02:27] <itochan_d> jiban (地盤) means supporters of his own location, kanban (看板)  means name value（?) , kaban (カバン) is a lot of money.
[2008/04/05(Sat) 02:28] <itochan_d> （間違っていたらごめんなさい
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[2008/04/05(Sat) 02:29] <itochan_d> hmmm, very interesting  < 10000 ppl
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[2008/04/05(Sat) 02:31] <itochan_d> if he is one of Japanese politician, maybe he choose the choice he will get more benefits on himself. 
[2008/04/05(Sat) 02:33] <itochan_d> there are rotten politicians
[2008/04/05(Sat) 02:34] <Crowler> thats usually happens, he is just a human, he have to support his followers, have to somehow get money, have to keep his name clean and so on...
[2008/04/05(Sat) 02:35] <Crowler> country doesnt matter
[2008/04/05(Sat) 02:35] <itochan_d> that is very problem to fight global warming; ecology.
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[2008/04/05(Sat) 02:36] <itochan_d> global warming will give him no benefits
[2008/04/05(Sat) 02:37] <itochan_d> oops
[2008/04/05(Sat) 02:37] <itochan_d> fighting global warming will give him no benefit.
[2008/04/05(Sat) 02:37] <itochan_d> except "name clean"
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[2008/04/05(Sat) 02:38] <Crowler> it will depend on his view on, for example, how will his ppl live after his rule
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[2008/04/05(Sat) 02:40] <Crowler> this depends on such subtle things as education, religion, personal feelings and so on...
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[2008/04/05(Sat) 02:43] <Crowler> i mean, "democracy's" way of choosing ppl to rule is not an efficient barrier against idiots
[2008/04/05(Sat) 02:44] <Crowler> and every other known too
[2008/04/05(Sat) 03:02] <Crowler> btw, "san-ban" looks for me like some sort of "minimum hardware requirement", and we all know how "well" software runs on such "minimum"
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[2008/04/05(Sat) 22:18] <saitos2> 求む 9.50 ヘビーユーザー
[2008/04/05(Sat) 22:18] <i_orzccc> mentos と似ているさいとうさんこんばんは
[2008/04/05(Sat) 22:18] <saitos2> 麺と酢？
[2008/04/05(Sat) 22:18] <i_orzccc> 合わなくはない
[2008/04/05(Sat) 22:18] <saitos2> 9.50使ってる？
[2008/04/05(Sat) 22:18] <i_orzccc> うん
[2008/04/05(Sat) 22:19] <saitos2> どう？
[2008/04/05(Sat) 22:19] <i_orzccc> 先週くらいにいれた最新スナップショットはとてもいいかんじ
[2008/04/05(Sat) 22:19] <i_orzccc> Flash周りもGmailもクリア
[2008/04/05(Sat) 22:19] <saitos2> これだけはどうにも我慢ならないって点、ある？
[2008/04/05(Sat) 22:19] <i_orzccc> どうにもならないというか
[2008/04/05(Sat) 22:19] <saitos2> そういった情報を収集してます
[2008/04/05(Sat) 22:19] <i_orzccc> 点滅するバグはいつ直るのか気になってる
[2008/04/05(Sat) 22:20] <saitos2> どこで点滅？
[2008/04/05(Sat) 22:20] <i_orzccc> それがいまいちわからんのですけども
[2008/04/05(Sat) 22:20] <saitos2> 何が点滅？
[2008/04/05(Sat) 22:20] <i_orzccc> うちの会社の Trac チケットで頻繁におきる
[2008/04/05(Sat) 22:20] <i_orzccc> それも不明
[2008/04/05(Sat) 22:20] <saitos2> わらい
[2008/04/05(Sat) 22:20] <i_orzccc> 表示領域の一部分
[2008/04/05(Sat) 22:20] <saitos2> ああ
[2008/04/05(Sat) 22:20] <i_orzccc> 主に見出しかな
[2008/04/05(Sat) 22:20] <saitos2> あのさ
[2008/04/05(Sat) 22:21] <saitos2> GoogleReaderつかったことある？
[2008/04/05(Sat) 22:21] <i_orzccc> 過去にちょっと試しに。常用したことはないです
[2008/04/05(Sat) 22:21] <saitos2> アカウントがあるなら
[2008/04/05(Sat) 22:21] <saitos2> 開いてみて
[2008/04/05(Sat) 22:22] <saitos2> u will see something wonderful
[2008/04/05(Sat) 22:22] <i_orzccc> 開いた
[2008/04/05(Sat) 22:22] <i_orzccc> なんだろう
[2008/04/05(Sat) 22:22] <saitos2> normal?
[2008/04/05(Sat) 22:22] <saitos2> 問題ない？
[2008/04/05(Sat) 22:23] <i_orzccc> んーまぁ若干あやしいところはあるけど
[2008/04/05(Sat) 22:23] <i_orzccc> 爆笑するようなのはいまんとこないな
[2008/04/05(Sat) 22:23] <saitos2> 先々週だかその前くらいから
[2008/04/05(Sat) 22:23] <saitos2> 挙動がおかしいの
[2008/04/05(Sat) 22:23] <saitos2> ほう＞平気なのか
[2008/04/05(Sat) 22:24] <saitos2> やつら＞Google,  ひっそり直しやがった！
[2008/04/05(Sat) 22:25] <saitos2> くそったれGoogle
[2008/04/05(Sat) 22:26] <saitos2> eeto
[2008/04/05(Sat) 22:26] <saitos2> ええと。昨晩までは、、
[2008/04/05(Sat) 22:26] <saitos2> 全画面にフォーカスが当たったような状態だった
[2008/04/05(Sat) 22:26] <i_orzccc> へー
[2008/04/05(Sat) 22:27] <i_orzccc> ないな
[2008/04/05(Sat) 22:27] <saitos2> 今は直ってる
[2008/04/05(Sat) 22:27] <i_orzccc> まぁ日頃の行いのよさがこういうところで出る
[2008/04/05(Sat) 22:27] <saitos2> こっちは更新していないのに直ったんだから
[2008/04/05(Sat) 22:27] <saitos2> Googleが直したに違いない
[2008/04/05(Sat) 22:28] <saitos2> Gmail2ってよいらしいと
[2008/04/05(Sat) 22:28] <saitos2> いわれているけど、そっちは使った？
[2008/04/05(Sat) 22:31] <saitos2> その他に日本語環境で使う際に気になる点とか、、あれば
[2008/04/05(Sat) 22:31] <saitos2> こないだ来てたスノーレにメール書くから
[2008/04/05(Sat) 22:32] <saitos2> 僕はあまり9.50使っていないので、、
[2008/04/05(Sat) 22:33] <i_orzccc> んー
[2008/04/05(Sat) 22:33] <i_orzccc> 点滅はひどいとおもう
[2008/04/05(Sat) 22:33] <i_orzccc> んでもそれくらいだな
[2008/04/05(Sat) 22:33] <saitos2> 再現方法と、、どのビルドで発生したかという情報がほしいところ
[2008/04/05(Sat) 22:34] <i_orzccc> b2でずっと起きてるけど
[2008/04/05(Sat) 22:34] <i_orzccc> 再現方法はわからんなー
[2008/04/05(Sat) 22:34] <saitos2> Mailは使ってる？
[2008/04/05(Sat) 22:34] <i_orzccc> まったく
[2008/04/05(Sat) 22:34] <i_orzccc> 8くらいでGmailに移行した
[2008/04/05(Sat) 22:34] <saitos2> まあ、あそこが一番いろいろありそうで
[2008/04/05(Sat) 22:35] <saitos2> いまだに検索で日本語が通らないし
[2008/04/05(Sat) 22:36] <i_orzccc> ノルウェー語は通るのかねえ
[2008/04/05(Sat) 22:36] <saitos2> ああ、そうだ。プライベートメッセージを送るね
[2008/04/05(Sat) 22:36] <i_orzccc> そういうバグが出ることの理解に苦しむ
[2008/04/05(Sat) 22:37] <saitos2> とどいてない？
[2008/04/05(Sat) 22:37] <i_orzccc> きてるんだけど
[2008/04/05(Sat) 22:37] <saitos2> だけど
[2008/04/05(Sat) 22:37] <i_orzccc> * Error(401) saitos2 No such nick/channel
[2008/04/05(Sat) 22:37] <saitos2> ああ
[2008/04/05(Sat) 22:37] <i_orzccc> こちらから書くとこうなる
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[2008/04/05(Sat) 22:38] <saitos> OK
[2008/04/05(Sat) 22:38] <i_orzccc> だめっぽ
[2008/04/05(Sat) 22:38] <saitos> ええ！
[2008/04/05(Sat) 22:39] <saitos> では再度
[2008/04/05(Sat) 22:39] <i_orzccc> だめ
[2008/04/05(Sat) 22:39] <saitos> ありゃ
[2008/04/05(Sat) 22:39] <saitos> じゃあ、いいや
[2008/04/05(Sat) 22:40] <saitos> まあ、これも時の運
[2008/04/05(Sat) 22:40] <i_orzccc> Gtalk とか
[2008/04/05(Sat) 22:41] <saitos> ええと
[2008/04/05(Sat) 22:41] <saitos> ぼくのあどれすは
[2008/04/05(Sat) 22:41] <saitos> saitos
[2008/04/05(Sat) 22:41] <saitos> です
[2008/04/05(Sat) 22:41] <i_orzccc> おｋ
[2008/04/05(Sat) 22:43] <saitos> 開けてますが、来ませんねえ
[2008/04/05(Sat) 22:44] <i_orzccc> むずかった
[2008/04/05(Sat) 22:59] <TERRAZI> はふ
[2008/04/05(Sat) 23:03] <saitos> 破風
[2008/04/05(Sat) 23:05] <saitos> TERRAZIは日本語環境で9.50を使う際に、何が一番欠けていると思う？
[2008/04/05(Sat) 23:06] <saitos> 隊長悪いのか、、お大事に。
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[2008/04/07(Mon) 23:14] <itochan_d> こんばんは
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[2008/04/07(Mon) 23:26] <alicien_1> hi oberon
[2008/04/07(Mon) 23:26] <Oberon> uhm, hi
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[2008/04/07(Mon) 23:27] <Oberon> damn it
[2008/04/07(Mon) 23:27] <Oberon> utf8
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[2008/04/07(Mon) 23:28] <Oberon> thats alot better
[2008/04/07(Mon) 23:31] <itochan_d> utf8?
[2008/04/07(Mon) 23:32] <Oberon> im in windows now
[2008/04/07(Mon) 23:33] <Oberon> it was last used about 2-3 month ago, when default channel encoding was 2022-jp
[2008/04/07(Mon) 23:33] <Oberon> now its utf8
[2008/04/07(Mon) 23:34] <itochan_d> can russian?
[2008/04/07(Mon) 23:34] <Oberon> наверно да
[2008/04/07(Mon) 23:34] <itochan_d> ^_^
[2008/04/07(Mon) 23:35] <Oberon> but for japanese i have to install cjk support in windows
[2008/04/07(Mon) 23:36] <itochan_d> use japanese windows (LOL
[2008/04/07(Mon) 23:37] <Oberon> its quite hard to obtain imho
[2008/04/07(Mon) 23:37] <itochan_d> hmmm, I can't suppose how hard to do with japanese in foreign windows ...
[2008/04/07(Mon) 23:38] <itochan_d> I was and is using only japanese windows
[2008/04/07(Mon) 23:39] <Oberon> of course you do
[2008/04/07(Mon) 23:39] <Oberon> because you are japanese
[2008/04/07(Mon) 23:44] <Oberon> there is PL, FR, ESP, SWE, GER, IT, DK versions on isohunt
[2008/04/07(Mon) 23:45] <Oberon> and i also found JA
[2008/04/07(Mon) 23:47] <Oberon> but serials from different language versions will not match
[2008/04/07(Mon) 23:47] <Oberon> (personal experience)
[2008/04/07(Mon) 23:57] <Oberon> hey, this doesnt mean that i ask you for one )
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[2008/04/08(Tue) 00:33] <itochan_d> maybe you couldn't install that JA windows by yourself
[2008/04/08(Tue) 00:34] <itochan_d> oops / could -> will be able to
[2008/04/08(Tue) 00:34] <itochan_d> （何で過去形にｗｗｗ
[2008/04/08(Tue) 00:44] <Oberon> ごめん、ごはんたべった
[2008/04/08(Tue) 00:46] <Oberon> i will be able to do it, because i know process quite well and did it a lot of times
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[2008/04/08(Tue) 00:48] <Oberon> moreover, my using of japanese windows will look like a some cheating, because i know "what is written under that button" in english
[2008/04/08(Tue) 00:49] <itochan_d> cheating... :)
[2008/04/08(Tue) 00:49] <itochan_d> :D
[2008/04/08(Tue) 00:50] <Oberon> and i know enough places of windows in that  way to not to have any problems in day_by_day use
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[2008/04/08(Tue) 00:54] <Oberon> btw, itochan, you dont have to let your... uhm... politeness prevail over your wish to sleep well
[2008/04/08(Tue) 00:55] <Oberon> i mean your disappearance yesterday
[2008/04/08(Tue) 00:55] <itochan_d> so sorry
[2008/04/08(Tue) 00:55] <itochan_d> suddenly I slept
[2008/04/08(Tue) 00:56] <itochan_d> sitting on the chair
[2008/04/08(Tue) 00:57] <itochan_d> I must say bye-bye before that, I know, very sorry.
[2008/04/08(Tue) 00:57] <Oberon> you always can say smth like:"im feel sleepy" and go to bed (at least when you talk with me)
[2008/04/08(Tue) 00:57] <itochan_d> sorry.
[2008/04/08(Tue) 00:58] <itochan_d> orz
[2008/04/08(Tue) 00:58] <Oberon> )
[2008/04/08(Tue) 00:58] <Oberon> no need
[2008/04/08(Tue) 00:59] <itochan_d> by the way, which e-mail service are you using?
[2008/04/08(Tue) 00:59] <itochan_d> yahoo ? gmail?
[2008/04/08(Tue) 01:01] <itochan_d> hotmail?
[2008/04/08(Tue) 01:02] <Oberon> i have an account on gmail, but rarely use it, because of spam. also i have 2 more accounts on free russian mail-server. one for misc tasks like registration on forums and other for business
[2008/04/08(Tue) 01:03] <Oberon> i dont check them on regular basis, though opera allows it
[2008/04/08(Tue) 01:04] <itochan_d> hmmm
[2008/04/08(Tue) 01:05] <itochan_d> I have yahoo, gmail and more, but yahoo and gmail gets too many spams...
[2008/04/08(Tue) 01:06] <Oberon> my 1st account on russian server get more spam than all others
[2008/04/08(Tue) 01:07] <Oberon> e-mail addresses are transferred unencrypted over the net
[2008/04/08(Tue) 01:09] <itochan_d> I know
[2008/04/08(Tue) 01:09] <itochan_d> ? wait,  e-mail addresses?
[2008/04/08(Tue) 01:10] <Oberon> just one sniffer on data-center is enough to get a lot of valid e-mail addresses in short time
[2008/04/08(Tue) 01:10] <Oberon> yes, addresses
[2008/04/08(Tue) 01:10] <itochan_d> of cource yes, mail body can be encripted but e-mail address cannot
[2008/04/08(Tue) 01:10] <Oberon> spammers dont need anything else
[2008/04/08(Tue) 01:11] <Oberon> thats the way in which some ppl do some dirty money
[2008/04/08(Tue) 01:12] <itochan_d> ah, I hear this first, yes, e-mail address can be collected by spammers, ...
[2008/04/08(Tue) 01:12] <itochan_d> I never heard this.
[2008/04/08(Tue) 01:13] <itochan_d> ? ( again
[2008/04/08(Tue) 01:13] <Oberon> they dont collect them
[2008/04/08(Tue) 01:13] <itochan_d> I have never heard this
[2008/04/08(Tue) 01:13] <Oberon> they buy them
[2008/04/08(Tue) 01:13] <itochan_d> ok,  same for me.
[2008/04/08(Tue) 01:14] <Oberon> from those system administrators who think that their salary is not enough high
[2008/04/08(Tue) 01:17] <itochan_d> yes, I know , Japanese spammer can earn better money than common business man in Japan
[2008/04/08(Tue) 01:17] <itochan_d> earn more money than
[2008/04/08(Tue) 01:17] <Oberon> well, its just one more kind of job
[2008/04/08(Tue) 01:18] <Oberon> same as yakudza/mafia or prostitution
[2008/04/08(Tue) 01:19] <Oberon> one may fit well for such job or not well
[2008/04/08(Tue) 01:19] <itochan_d> hmmm
[2008/04/08(Tue) 01:20] <Oberon> i mean, not everyone may make a lot of money on such business
[2008/04/08(Tue) 01:21] <itochan_d> good man don't do that.
[2008/04/08(Tue) 01:21] <itochan_d> no
[2008/04/08(Tue) 01:21] <Oberon> heh
[2008/04/08(Tue) 01:21] <itochan_d> wait ... you mean,
[2008/04/08(Tue) 01:22] <itochan_d> almost everyone may make a little money on such business ?
[2008/04/08(Tue) 01:23] <itochan_d> or
[2008/04/08(Tue) 01:23] <Oberon> hmm... i didnt look at it from such point of view
[2008/04/08(Tue) 01:23] <itochan_d> almost everyone don't touch such business?
[2008/04/08(Tue) 01:25] <itochan_d> ( at affiliate-ad business in japan only a few earn a successful money
[2008/04/08(Tue) 01:25] <Oberon> i mean, to success in some business, no matter is it legal or not, man must "fit well" for this business
[2008/04/08(Tue) 01:25] <itochan_d> i see.
[2008/04/08(Tue) 01:26] <Oberon> and here is not so much of ppl who "fit well"
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[2008/04/08(Tue) 01:26] <Oberon> you can try, if you want, but here is no warranty of success
[2008/04/08(Tue) 01:27] <itochan_d> sure
[2008/04/08(Tue) 01:27] <Oberon> else this poor planet would be filled with millionairs 10000 years ago
[2008/04/08(Tue) 01:28] <Oberon> hi, Snow
[2008/04/08(Tue) 01:29] <itochan_d> As Catholic thinking,  is that his "talent" from someone ? :D
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[2008/04/08(Tue) 01:30] <Lyagush> ﾏ�鞣蛛E
[2008/04/08(Tue) 01:30] <itochan_d> hello
[2008/04/08(Tue) 01:30] <Oberon> Lyagush utf8
[2008/04/08(Tue) 01:31] <Lyagush> ﾐｲﾐｺﾐｻﾑ紗・ｸﾐｻ utf8
[2008/04/08(Tue) 01:31] <Lyagush> ﾑひｰﾐｺ ﾐｻﾑτ・威ｵ?
[2008/04/08(Tue) 01:32] <Snow> hi ll!
[2008/04/08(Tue) 01:32] <Snow> #all
[2008/04/08(Tue) 01:32] <Lyagush> hi 
[2008/04/08(Tue) 01:32] <Lyagush>  10@3}9->-- 7@3}9->-- 0@3}9->-- 8@3}9->-- 3@3}9->-- 8@3}9->--
[2008/04/08(Tue) 01:32] <Lyagush> Snow: ﾐ墟ｰﾐｺ ﾑ・ﾑひｵﾐｱﾑ・ﾐｴﾐｵﾐｻﾐｰ? ﾐｧﾑひｾ ﾐｽﾐｾﾐｲﾐｾﾐｳﾐｾ?
[2008/04/08(Tue) 01:33] <Oberon> im not catholic, so i dont know how they're thinking, but "talent" and "fit well" have similar meaning
[2008/04/08(Tue) 01:33] <Lyagush> im not catholic
[2008/04/08(Tue) 01:35] <Lyagush> im is matrxolic
[2008/04/08(Tue) 01:35] <itochan_d> ok ( talent nearly eq. fit well
[2008/04/08(Tue) 01:36] <Oberon> and i cant say that this "talent" is "from someone" because im not religious
[2008/04/08(Tue) 01:36] <Lyagush> matrixolic
[2008/04/08(Tue) 01:37] <Oberon> one more "netizen", Lyagush?
[2008/04/08(Tue) 01:38] <Lyagush> you religious netizen?
[2008/04/08(Tue) 01:38] <itochan_d> what is matrixolic? matrixholic?
[2008/04/08(Tue) 01:39] <Oberon> as i said i bit above, im not
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[2008/04/08(Tue) 01:39] <Oberon> look like he trust in world wide matrix, itochan
[2008/04/08(Tue) 01:40] <itochan_d> ( I googled "matrixolic" but got no match
[2008/04/08(Tue) 01:40] <Lyagush> is religious big kibersuperbrain
[2008/04/08(Tue) 01:40] <itochan_d> ( so I guess... aha!
[2008/04/08(Tue) 01:41] <itochan_d> I am so-called Japanese buddist
[2008/04/08(Tue) 01:42] <Oberon> you've got a good weed, Lyagush
[2008/04/08(Tue) 01:42] <Lyagush> Lyagush - frogman
[2008/04/08(Tue) 01:42] <Oberon> なるほど
[2008/04/08(Tue) 01:43] <Lyagush> ?
[2008/04/08(Tue) 01:44] <Lyagush> !stat
[2008/04/08(Tue) 01:44] <Oberon> だから、あなたはみどりです ^_^
[2008/04/08(Tue) 01:45] <Oberon> and have a big yellow eyes
[2008/04/08(Tue) 01:46] <itochan_d> :D
[2008/04/08(Tue) 01:46] <Oberon> damn, my vocabulary is smaller than 5yrs old kid's
[2008/04/08(Tue) 01:47] <itochan_d> frogman ? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kermit_the_Frog
[2008/04/08(Tue) 01:47] -CzBot:#japanese- Kermit the Frog - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [text/html; charset=utf-8]
[2008/04/08(Tue) 01:50] <Oberon> there was frog in 千と千尋の神隠し but it was small and not sentient
[2008/04/08(Tue) 01:50] <Lyagush> no
[2008/04/08(Tue) 01:50] <Lyagush> www.senya110.narod.ru/lygush.jpg
[2008/04/08(Tue) 01:51] <Lyagush> [00:50:30] <Oberon> there was frog in 千と千尋の神隠し but it was small and not sentient
[2008/04/08(Tue) 01:51] <Lyagush> ?
[2008/04/08(Tue) 01:51] <Oberon> kanji and kana. japanese symbols
[2008/04/08(Tue) 01:51] <itochan_d> http://senya110.narod.ru/lygush.jpg
[2008/04/08(Tue) 01:52] -CzBot:#japanese- JPEG Image, 300x225 9KB
[2008/04/08(Tue) 01:54] <Oberon> in this context, "frogman" doesnt mean some particular person, but some unspecified hybride of frog and human, itochan_d
[2008/04/08(Tue) 01:55] <Lyagush> I drew in 3DS max 
[2008/04/08(Tue) 01:56] <itochan_d> i see. not like "the Fly"
[2008/04/08(Tue) 01:56] <itochan_d> like as a fly-man .
[2008/04/08(Tue) 01:56] <Oberon> right
[2008/04/08(Tue) 01:56] <Lyagush> ))
[2008/04/08(Tue) 01:57] <Lyagush> http://up.li.ru/files/2008/03/26/344700.jpg
[2008/04/08(Tue) 01:57] -CzBot:#japanese- [403 Forbidden]
[2008/04/08(Tue) 01:57] <Lyagush> [403 Forbidden] - ?
[2008/04/08(Tue) 01:58] <Oberon> look like you have to be registered there
[2008/04/08(Tue) 01:58] <Oberon> also, direct links may be prohibited
[2008/04/08(Tue) 02:00] <Lyagush> link works
[2008/04/08(Tue) 02:01] <Lyagush> See a picture?
[2008/04/08(Tue) 02:01] <Oberon> then site use is restricted for russian only IPs
[2008/04/08(Tue) 02:02] <Lyagush> Poorly
[2008/04/08(Tue) 02:02] <Oberon> i can see it, im from russia
[2008/04/08(Tue) 02:03] <Lyagush> Give the link your warehouse of pictures
[2008/04/08(Tue) 02:03] <Oberon> and pic is definitely better than previous one )
[2008/04/08(Tue) 02:03] <Oberon> im not a painter
[2008/04/08(Tue) 02:03] <itochan_d> I can't
[2008/04/08(Tue) 02:04] <itochan_d> Lyagush uses proxy, but you can see the picture?
[2008/04/08(Tue) 02:05] <itochan_d> ( russian proxy?
[2008/04/08(Tue) 02:05] <Lyagush> I in Russia
[2008/04/08(Tue) 02:05] <Lyagush> Certainly I see
[2008/04/08(Tue) 02:07] <itochan_d> ok. however I am in Japan, I can't see it.
[2008/04/08(Tue) 02:07] <Lyagush> Can fill on mail?
[2008/04/08(Tue) 02:08] <Oberon> im trying to upload, but im slow
[2008/04/08(Tue) 02:08] <Oberon> any free and fast file exchange services?
[2008/04/08(Tue) 02:09] <Lyagush> I do not understand
[2008/04/08(Tue) 02:09] <itochan_d> why don't you get my.opera.com account ? :)
[2008/04/08(Tue) 02:10] <Oberon> just to send only one file???
[2008/04/08(Tue) 02:10] <itochan_d> ^_^;
[2008/04/08(Tue) 02:10] <Lyagush> yes
[2008/04/08(Tue) 02:11] <itochan_d> can't do with IRC ?
[2008/04/08(Tue) 02:11] <Lyagush> no
[2008/04/08(Tue) 02:13] <Oberon> found one
[2008/04/08(Tue) 02:13] <itochan_d> is it ? http://imageshack.us/
[2008/04/08(Tue) 02:13] -CzBot:#japanese- ImageShack速 - Image Hosting [text/html; charset=utf-8]
[2008/04/08(Tue) 02:14] <Lyagush> Now that I shall think up)
[2008/04/08(Tue) 02:17] <Oberon> http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/3896/344700mx9.jpg
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[2008/04/08(Tue) 02:18] <itochan_d> i can see. nice !
[2008/04/08(Tue) 02:18] <Oberon> the only site thich works without javascript turned on
[2008/04/08(Tue) 02:19] <Lyagush> Is beautiful? )
[2008/04/08(Tue) 02:20] <Oberon> not much difference with your traditional village houses, itochan_d?
[2008/04/08(Tue) 02:21] <itochan_d> yes, this is far from Japanese traditional village houses
[2008/04/08(Tue) 02:21] <Lyagush> I do not understand " itochan _d? "
[2008/04/08(Tue) 02:22] <Oberon> you can see a lot of such houses as one pictured along the road, when you ride on any highway to or from moscow-city
[2008/04/08(Tue) 02:23] <Oberon> but of course, real ones are not so new and shining
[2008/04/08(Tue) 02:24] <Oberon> "itochan_d" is a nick
[2008/04/08(Tue) 02:24] <Lyagush> I live in Siberia, here such houses
[2008/04/08(Tue) 02:24] <itochan_d> http://e-tombo.img.jugem.jp/20070206_147971.jpg
[2008/04/08(Tue) 02:24] -CzBot:#japanese- JPEG Image, 400x300 42KB
[2008/04/08(Tue) 02:25] <itochan_d> "your" = "Japanese" traditional village house
[2008/04/08(Tue) 02:25] <Oberon> is it really _village_ house?
[2008/04/08(Tue) 02:26] <itochan_d> what do you mean ***village***?
[2008/04/08(Tue) 02:27] <Lyagush> Oberon: Almost 
[2008/04/08(Tue) 02:27] <Oberon> wait a sec., itochan_d
[2008/04/08(Tue) 02:28] <Lyagush> ﾑ・ﾐｽﾐｵﾑ・ｺﾐｾﾐｻﾑ糊ｺﾐｾ ﾑ・ｰﾑ・ｾﾐｲ  ﾐｽﾐｰﾐｷﾐｰﾐｴ ﾐｿﾑ�ﾐｸﾐｵﾑ・ｰﾐｻ ﾐｲ ﾑ・ｵﾐｻﾑ袴・ｺﾐｾﾐｵ ﾐｺ ﾑ�ﾐｾﾐｴﾐｸﾑひｵﾐｻﾑ紹ｼ
[2008/04/08(Tue) 02:29] <Lyagush> ﾐｿﾑ�ﾐｸﾐｳﾐｾﾑ�ﾐｾﾐｴ - ﾑ・ｵﾐｻﾐｾ 
[2008/04/08(Tue) 02:29] <Lyagush> Suburb - village 
[2008/04/08(Tue) 02:29] <Lyagush> I some hours back have arrived in village to the parents
[2008/04/08(Tue) 02:29] <Lyagush> ~60km
[2008/04/08(Tue) 02:31] <Oberon> gassezukuri
[2008/04/08(Tue) 02:32] <itochan_d> ok. the foto I shown is traditional, old style, farmers, countryside house
[2008/04/08(Tue) 02:32] <Oberon> im not sure i spelled it properly
[2008/04/08(Tue) 02:34] <itochan_d>  gasshozukuri 合掌造り？ http://images.google.com/images?q=%E5%90%88%E6%8E%8C%E9%80%A0%E3%82%8A
[2008/04/08(Tue) 02:34] -CzBot:#japanese- 合掌造り - Google Image Search [text/html; charset=UTF-8]
[2008/04/08(Tue) 02:35] <Oberon> http://kitya.livejournal.com/215154.html taken from there
[2008/04/08(Tue) 02:35] -CzBot:#japanese- /dev/karlson/mind.log - Япония: В деревне Простоквашино - де... [text/html; charset=utf-8]
[2008/04/08(Tue) 02:35] <Lyagush> Everywhere large penthouses
[2008/04/08(Tue) 02:36] <itochan_d> gasshozukuri is for hard snow , I guess
[2008/04/08(Tue) 02:36] <Lyagush> Such is rare in Russia
[2008/04/08(Tue) 02:37] <Lyagush> Gasshozukuri?
[2008/04/08(Tue) 02:38] <Oberon> so gasshozukuri may be treatened as "northern village style"?
[2008/04/08(Tue) 02:40] <Lyagush> ﾑ・ﾐｽﾐｰﾑ・ﾐｽﾐｵﾑ・ﾑ・ひｸﾐｻﾑ・ﾑ・ｵﾐｻﾐｰ
[2008/04/08(Tue) 02:40] <Lyagush> We do not have style of village
[2008/04/08(Tue) 02:40] <itochan_d> I am not sure but that architecture maybe be shown in very narrow area
[2008/04/08(Tue) 02:40] <itochan_d> local design
[2008/04/08(Tue) 02:40] <Lyagush> I write and I read you through the interpreter )
[2008/04/08(Tue) 02:42] <Lyagush> Each inhabitant at construction itself projects, the general(common) project of village is not present
[2008/04/08(Tue) 02:45] <itochan_d> ah, Wikipedia http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%90%88%E6%8E%8C%E9%80%A0%E3%82%8A
[2008/04/08(Tue) 02:45] -CzBot:#japanese- 合掌造り - Wikipedia [text/html; charset=utf-8]
[2008/04/08(Tue) 02:45] <Oberon> i thought, this "local design" was widely used 100-200 yrs ago.
[2008/04/08(Tue) 02:46] <itochan_d> you are right.
[2008/04/08(Tue) 02:46] <itochan_d> sorry, your are right.
[2008/04/08(Tue) 02:48] <Oberon> really?? i just dont have vikipedia's article translated yet
[2008/04/08(Tue) 02:48] <Lyagush> Design checked up by years
[2008/04/08(Tue) 02:54] <Oberon> sorry guys, im turning down. im again didnt slept last night 
[2008/04/08(Tue) 02:54] <itochan_d> thank you talking
[2008/04/08(Tue) 02:55] <itochan_d> I have to study more about gasshozukuri ...
[2008/04/08(Tue) 02:55] <Oberon> おやすみなさい
[2008/04/08(Tue) 02:56] <itochan_d> oyasumi
[2008/04/08(Tue) 02:56] <Lyagush> Oberon: Leave? 
[2008/04/08(Tue) 02:58] <itochan_d> bye Oberon
[2008/04/08(Tue) 02:58] <Lyagush> Oberon: bye
[2008/04/08(Tue) 02:58] <Lyagush> itochan_d: With what at you the computer?
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[2008/04/08(Tue) 19:29] <itochan_da> e2j A
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[2008/04/08(Tue) 19:29] -CzBot:#japanese- 【形】とび切り上等の、第1級の◆【同】A【不】〔同種類｛どう しゅるい｝のものの〕一つの、1個の、1台の、一人｛ひとり｝の・I have a computer on my desk. : 私は、自分の
[2008/04/08(Tue) 19:29] -CzBot:#japanese- 【名】アルファベットの A〔大文字〕A サイズ◆紙の A 系列のサイズ。例えば A3、A4、A5サイズなど。《音楽》イ調、イ音甲乙丙の甲、優良可の優◆学校の成績など。《ギリシャ文字》アルファ◆【同】A
[2008/04/08(Tue) 19:29] <itochan_da> e2j felony
[2008/04/08(Tue) 19:29] <itochan_da> （うぅ…
[2008/04/08(Tue) 19:29] <itochan_da> e2j felony
[2008/04/08(Tue) 19:30] <itochan_da> こんばんは
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[2008/04/08(Tue) 21:29] <itochan_d> こんばんは
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[2008/04/09(Wed) 01:07] <itochan_da> こん
[2008/04/09(Wed) 01:12] <i_orzccc> ぺい
[2008/04/09(Wed) 01:12] <itochan_da> でーす！
[2008/04/09(Wed) 01:13] <i_orzccc> 今誰か新潟県を馬鹿にしなかったか
[2008/04/09(Wed) 01:13] <itochan_da> いいえ。
[2008/04/09(Wed) 01:13] <i_orzccc> 思い過ごしだったようだ
[2008/04/09(Wed) 01:37] <itochan_da> ダレカイマスカ？
[2008/04/09(Wed) 01:39] <Oberon> はい、はい
[2008/04/09(Wed) 01:40] * Oberon carefully listen to what i_orzccc says
[2008/04/09(Wed) 01:41] <Oberon> its so rare happens
[2008/04/09(Wed) 01:43] <itochan_da> have you ever used this irc applet ? http://www.pjirc.com/main.php
[2008/04/09(Wed) 01:43] -CzBot:#japanese- #<Timeout::Error: execution expired>
[2008/04/09(Wed) 01:46] <Oberon> my denwa lack MIDP 2.0, but it does have symbian in exchange
[2008/04/09(Wed) 01:50] <itochan_da> i am sorry i cannot understand ... (MIDP ?
[2008/04/09(Wed) 01:51] <Oberon> http://www.google.co.jp/search?hl=en&q=MIDP+2.0&btnG=Google+Search
[2008/04/09(Wed) 01:51] -CzBot:#japanese- MIDP 2.0 - Google Search [text/html; charset=UTF-8]
[2008/04/09(Wed) 01:52] <Oberon> basically, its version of java, especially designed for mobile phones
[2008/04/09(Wed) 01:53] <Oberon> here are 2 of them
[2008/04/09(Wed) 01:53] <Oberon> MIDP 1.0 and MIDP 2.0
[2008/04/09(Wed) 01:53] <Oberon> all modern phones have MIDP 2.0
[2008/04/09(Wed) 01:56] <itochan_da> i c
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[2008/04/09(Wed) 01:58] <Crowler> Konbanwa
[2008/04/09(Wed) 01:58] <Oberon> wow
[2008/04/09(Wed) 01:58] <Oberon> what a ping
[2008/04/09(Wed) 01:58] <Oberon> about 5 sec
[2008/04/09(Wed) 02:00] <itochan_da> too bad network in these days
[2008/04/09(Wed) 02:01] <Crowler> GPRS Always was slow
[2008/04/09(Wed) 02:02] <Oberon> battery low
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[2008/04/09(Wed) 02:09] <Oberon> what a mobile you using, itochan?
[2008/04/09(Wed) 02:11] <Oberon> mine is n-gage qd.i bought it for a quite cheap price from a heighbour 2 or 3 yrs ago
[2008/04/09(Wed) 02:12] <itochan_da> I have Docomo
[2008/04/09(Wed) 02:13] <itochan_da> Docomo is a mobile phone, and I don't have mobile computer.
[2008/04/09(Wed) 02:13] <Oberon> its your mobile provider
[2008/04/09(Wed) 02:13] <Oberon> dont tell me they are manufacturing phones byself
[2008/04/09(Wed) 02:13] <itochan_da> ?
[2008/04/09(Wed) 02:14] <itochan_da> ah, F703i
[2008/04/09(Wed) 02:14] <Oberon> sharp?
[2008/04/09(Wed) 02:14] <itochan_da> Fujitsu
[2008/04/09(Wed) 02:14] <Oberon> !g F703i
[2008/04/09(Wed) 02:15] <Oberon> (
[2008/04/09(Wed) 02:19] <itochan_da> http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/F703i
[2008/04/09(Wed) 02:19] -CzBot:#japanese- F703i - Wikipedia [text/html; charset=utf-8]
[2008/04/09(Wed) 02:21] <Oberon> mine link is better ))
[2008/04/09(Wed) 02:21] <Oberon> http://image.itmedia.co.jp/l/im/mobile/articles/0701/30/l_os_bath1.jpg
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[2008/04/09(Wed) 02:22] <itochan_da> ahaw
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[2008/04/09(Wed) 02:26] <itochan_da> 0701/30
[2008/04/09(Wed) 02:26] <itochan_da> 2007-01-30
[2008/04/09(Wed) 02:27] <Oberon> is it common for japanese phones to be waterproof?
[2008/04/09(Wed) 02:27] <itochan_da> no, this is one of a few.
[2008/04/09(Wed) 02:30] <Oberon> so you kind of an owner of cool device? )
[2008/04/09(Wed) 02:34] <itochan_da> the date says all
[2008/04/09(Wed) 02:34] <itochan_da> old one
[2008/04/09(Wed) 02:35] <itochan_da> another topic; do you know http://rajaka.net/projects/japanizer/
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[2008/04/09(Wed) 02:35] <Oberon> mine is a lot older, so dont worry )
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[2008/04/09(Wed) 02:36] <Oberon> kozawa attacks!
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[2008/04/09(Wed) 02:37] <itochan_da> LOL,  please forget that web service ; japanizer
[2008/04/09(Wed) 02:38] <Oberon> ehm
[2008/04/09(Wed) 02:38] <Oberon> just black screen
[2008/04/09(Wed) 02:39] <Oberon> look like its all made in flash
[2008/04/09(Wed) 02:39] <itochan_da> ^_^;
[2008/04/09(Wed) 02:40] <Oberon> and of course a have it turned off
[2008/04/09(Wed) 02:41] <Oberon> i dont even have flash plugin installed
[2008/04/09(Wed) 02:42] <itochan_da> how about java?
[2008/04/09(Wed) 02:42] <Oberon> the same
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[2008/04/09(Wed) 02:43] <Oberon> i have a reasons to do it
[2008/04/09(Wed) 02:44] <Oberon> sometime a have to visit places on the net which are qiute offencive
[2008/04/09(Wed) 02:44] <Oberon> in mean of viruses and trojans
[2008/04/09(Wed) 02:44] <itochan_da> ok
[2008/04/09(Wed) 02:45] <itochan_da> you have to visit offensive sites
[2008/04/09(Wed) 02:45] <Oberon> and this way i save some traffic, time and money
[2008/04/09(Wed) 02:53] <itochan_da> I see
[2008/04/09(Wed) 02:54] <Oberon> i thought you fell asleep again )
[2008/04/09(Wed) 02:55] <itochan_da> not asleep yet, but I am sure I have to go to bed
[2008/04/09(Wed) 02:55] <itochan_da> good night
[2008/04/09(Wed) 02:56] <Oberon> sleep well ;)
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[2008/04/09(Wed) 03:44] <Antares> english?
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[2008/04/09(Wed) 05:51] <sancho22-82>  :p 
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[2008/04/09(Wed) 21:31] <hehe> I don't know how to use this software.
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[2008/04/09(Wed) 22:57] <racer_guy> haloo evryone!
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[2008/04/09(Wed) 23:32] <itochan_da> こんばんは
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[2008/04/09(Wed) 23:56] <itochan_da> こんばんは（再）
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[2008/04/10(Thu) 01:18] <itochan_da> bye
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[2008/04/10(Thu) 09:05] <twilight_14> where r u people?
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[2008/04/10(Thu) 21:50] <saitos> こんばんは
[2008/04/10(Thu) 21:51] <saitos> https://ryokin.au.kddi.com/InHome
[2008/04/10(Thu) 21:54] <saitos> This page returns its contents to Opera as text/x-hdml
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[2008/04/11(Fri) 01:14] <itochan_da> こんばんは
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[2008/04/11(Fri) 08:44] <pccc> hi
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[2008/04/11(Fri) 23:08] <nikkot> ・ ����・ ・�G・褪・
[2008/04/11(Fri) 23:16] <nikkot> ・-・
[2008/04/11(Fri) 23:18] <Crowler> pls use utf8 in this channel
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[2008/04/11(Fri) 23:36] <saitos> 数多、さってしまった？
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[2008/04/12(Sat) 01:02] <itochan> こんばんは
[2008/04/12(Sat) 01:15] <Crowler> こんばんは
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[2008/04/12(Sat) 01:32] <itochan> こんばんは？
[2008/04/12(Sat) 01:34] <Crowler> itochan, do you have there in japan special sound to cast cats away?
[2008/04/12(Sat) 01:37] <itochan> ?
[2008/04/12(Sat) 01:39] <Crowler> what a sound you make when you want some annoying cat go away?
[2008/04/12(Sat) 01:42] <itochan> sound of scratching a glass , isnt it ?
[2008/04/12(Sat) 01:43] <Crowler> ehm... i think... ppl cant nake such sounds, unless their throats made of steel and glass
[2008/04/12(Sat) 01:44] <Crowler> make*
[2008/04/12(Sat) 01:46] <itochan> me run away, too
[2008/04/12(Sat) 01:46] <Crowler> look like some misunderstanding
[2008/04/12(Sat) 01:48] <Crowler> in russian here is "брысь", in english - "shoo"
[2008/04/12(Sat) 01:49] <itochan> if me, I make anything big sound by hitting floor or hitting something other
[2008/04/12(Sat) 01:49] <Crowler> is there similar by mean sound in japanese?
[2008/04/12(Sat) 01:50] <itochan> シッシッ
[2008/04/12(Sat) 01:50] <itochan> http://frbourbon.cocolog-nifty.com/english/2004/12/post_2.html
[2008/04/12(Sat) 01:50] -CzBot:#japanese- 英語の時間　- へっぽこVersion: 「シッシッ！」「シーッ！」を英語で何と言うか？... [text/html; charset=utf-8]
[2008/04/12(Sat) 01:51] <itochan> > 「シッシッ！」："shoo!"
[2008/04/12(Sat) 01:51] <itochan> >日本語では「シッシッ！」と2回重ねて言いますが、英語では"shoo!"と1回で言うようです。なお、"shoo"は「追い払う」という動詞としても使います。
[2008/04/12(Sat) 01:51] <itochan> do you want it in romaji?
[2008/04/12(Sat) 01:52] <Crowler> at least i got something i meant )
[2008/04/12(Sat) 01:53] <itochan> ( too difficult to write it in romaji ...
[2008/04/12(Sat) 01:53] <Crowler> but there isnt written that it used especially for cats
[2008/04/12(Sat) 01:54] <itochan> ( maybe double of "4 lettter word" :P 
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[2008/04/12(Sat) 01:54] <Crowler> )
[2008/04/12(Sat) 01:54] <itochan> yes, for any animals including children
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[2008/04/12(Sat) 01:54] <itochan> human - children
[2008/04/12(Sat) 01:55] <Crowler> ehm... "kodomo" is not "ningen"?
[2008/04/12(Sat) 01:56] <itochan> sure, of cource
[2008/04/12(Sat) 01:56] <Crowler> why so?
[2008/04/12(Sat) 01:56] <Crowler> not "sentient" enough?
[2008/04/12(Sat) 01:58] <itochan> ( i found something more but its english page :) http://www.bitboost.com/pawsense/ 
[2008/04/12(Sat) 01:58] -CzBot:#japanese- PawSense helps you catproof your computer. [text/html]
[2008/04/12(Sat) 01:59] <Crowler> )
[2008/04/12(Sat) 01:59] <Crowler> im living alone, so i dont need such kind of software )
[2008/04/12(Sat) 02:00] <itochan> well, I just forgot how to explain animal's child 
[2008/04/12(Sat) 02:00] <itochan> ehm... "alone" excluding "animals"?
[2008/04/12(Sat) 02:01] <itochan> I am very afraid I have very little knowledge of English language
[2008/04/12(Sat) 02:02] <Crowler> i got what you asked
[2008/04/12(Sat) 02:02] <Crowler> but now im in trouble trying to answer properly )
[2008/04/12(Sat) 02:03] <itochan> sorry your trouble
[2008/04/12(Sat) 02:03] <Crowler> i heard something about double negatives in japanese neutralising each other
[2008/04/12(Sat) 02:05] <Crowler> well, to put it short, here is no animals in my home
[2008/04/12(Sat) 02:06] <itochan> ok :)
[2008/04/12(Sat) 02:06] <Crowler> maybe some spiders
[2008/04/12(Sat) 02:07] <Crowler> but they're on their own
[2008/04/12(Sat) 02:07] <Crowler> i dont touch them, they dont touch me
[2008/04/12(Sat) 02:09] <itochan> wow, I found how to call animals' child, for example, piggy, bunny, kitty, puppy, ...
[2008/04/12(Sat) 02:10] <Crowler> yes, here is a lot of names for them
[2008/04/12(Sat) 02:10] <itochan> or "little" monkey, "little" something
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[2008/04/12(Sat) 02:11] <Crowler> in the end, what i did yesterday to a girl on my job, in japanese definitely does have mean
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[2008/04/12(Sat) 02:20] <itochan> what?
[2008/04/12(Sat) 02:20] <itochan> pardon me?
[2008/04/12(Sat) 02:24] <Crowler> i told her "shoo". in russian of course. and now i know that used right word, because she is more "kodomo" than "ningen" (to put it blunt, she is young and stupid)
[2008/04/12(Sat) 02:28] <itochan> just a culture gap
[2008/04/12(Sat) 02:29] <itochan> ? is she japanese?
[2008/04/12(Sat) 02:30] <Crowler> of course she isnt
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[2008/04/12(Sat) 02:32] <itochan> ok, forget my last sentence ^^;
[2008/04/12(Sat) 02:33] <Crowler> do you think i should not apply japanese way of thinking on ppl around me?
[2008/04/12(Sat) 02:35] <itochan> everything is ok, because that is his/her own unique character
[2008/04/12(Sat) 02:40] <Crowler> you asked if she is japanese because you think "if she isnt, she will not be able to understand his reasons"?
[2008/04/12(Sat) 02:43] <itochan> I thought she is not good at russian as same as my english , or something like that
[2008/04/12(Sat) 02:47] <Crowler> if she would be japanese, i would find some more suitable words to say
[2008/04/12(Sat) 02:48] <itochan> Japanese have some local and traditional variations , for example Osaka-ben or Akita-ben (Indian-English or Australian English ), how about your russian?
[2008/04/12(Sat) 02:49] <Crowler> yes, here is such things
[2008/04/12(Sat) 02:50] <Crowler> though differentiation goes by region, not particular city
[2008/04/12(Sat) 02:50] <itochan> didn't she know  "shoo" those reasons?
[2008/04/12(Sat) 02:51] <itochan> ( ah , region
[2008/04/12(Sat) 02:52] <Crowler> as i said, she is young and doesnt know lot of things
[2008/04/12(Sat) 02:55] <itochan> ah, I adviced someone , yesterday's yesterday (2days ago),
[2008/04/12(Sat) 02:55] <itochan> 脳が空っぽってことは、これから、何でも詰めこめるってことだよ。
[2008/04/12(Sat) 02:55] <itochan> (wait ...
[2008/04/12(Sat) 02:56] <itochan> If your brain is so empty, you will be able to ...
[2008/04/12(Sat) 02:57] <itochan> learn anything deeply ... something like that
[2008/04/12(Sat) 02:58] <itochan> well
[2008/04/12(Sat) 02:59] <itochan> to learn something deep, it will take long time.
[2008/04/12(Sat) 02:59] <Crowler> yeah, i know she still have some capacity in her brain to progress, but...
[2008/04/12(Sat) 03:00] <Crowler> of what i learned, most of ppl dont use their brains in everyday life
[2008/04/12(Sat) 03:01] <itochan> me too
[2008/04/12(Sat) 03:01] <itochan> that is "peace"
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[2008/04/12(Sat) 03:03] <Crowler> what "me too"? "learned too" or ...??
[2008/04/12(Sat) 03:06] <Crowler> dont scare me and dont tell me that you live animal life )
[2008/04/12(Sat) 03:08] <itochan> I am one of "most of ppl"
[2008/04/12(Sat) 03:09] <Crowler> how's that? you dont look like one of them, at least by your talks
[2008/04/12(Sat) 03:09] <itochan> ah, this chat is NOT everyday life
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[2008/04/12(Sat) 03:13] <Crowler> well. one from real life. man comes with cartridge in our office and asks:"maybe it will be not bad to refill it, what do you guys think?"
[2008/04/12(Sat) 03:14] <Crowler> what would be your answer?
[2008/04/12(Sat) 03:16] <itochan> hmmm
[2008/04/12(Sat) 03:18] <itochan> I know my life is quite unique whether it is good or bad,
[2008/04/12(Sat) 03:19] <itochan> probably I wont wish replace or refill it
[2008/04/12(Sat) 03:21] <Crowler> keep in mind, that in russia, _all_ cartridges are refillable, even those which are supposed to be not ))
[2008/04/12(Sat) 03:23] <Crowler> what would you say to that man?
[2008/04/12(Sat) 03:26] <itochan> I will not do refill red ink into black pen
[2008/04/12(Sat) 03:27] <itochan> ( fountain pen - refillable
[2008/04/12(Sat) 03:28] <Crowler> you have all colours needed to refill
[2008/04/12(Sat) 03:28] <Crowler> and man stands waiting for your answer
[2008/04/12(Sat) 03:29] <Crowler> and its just impolite to completely ignore him
[2008/04/12(Sat) 03:31] <itochan> ( too long...
[2008/04/12(Sat) 03:31] <Crowler> and here is specialist, who will do actual refill, not you
[2008/04/12(Sat) 03:32] <Crowler> you do not even have to accept cartridge in job
[2008/04/12(Sat) 03:32] <Crowler> just to say somethint to him
[2008/04/12(Sat) 03:33] <Crowler> something*
[2008/04/12(Sat) 03:36] <itochan> maybe I must survey somebody other's case
[2008/04/12(Sat) 03:36] <itochan> research
[2008/04/12(Sat) 03:36] <itochan> I am very coward
[2008/04/12(Sat) 03:37] <Crowler> ehm, sorry, its real case from my job and i have only one job
[2008/04/12(Sat) 03:38] <Crowler> but here is chat, not real life, and here you have a lot ot time to think your answer well
[2008/04/12(Sat) 03:38] <itochan> so that I don't have mixi.jp which is the most biggest SNS community in Japan as if more than 10 million users( or accounts)
[2008/04/12(Sat) 03:39] <Crowler> ask someone to invite you
[2008/04/12(Sat) 03:39] <itochan> no, I won't have it
[2008/04/12(Sat) 03:39] <Crowler> but not directly
[2008/04/12(Sat) 03:40] <Crowler> ah, so that is
[2008/04/12(Sat) 03:40] <itochan> very coward so that.
[2008/04/12(Sat) 03:41] <itochan> on the other hand, I have yahoo! account . is it curious ?
[2008/04/12(Sat) 03:42] <itochan> yahoo! account "s"
[2008/04/12(Sat) 03:42] <Crowler> for me?
[2008/04/12(Sat) 03:44] <Crowler> if its some sort of instant messenger, i'd suggest you to use ICQ. its more widely spread
[2008/04/12(Sat) 03:46] <itochan> aha, I forgot my ICQ number
[2008/04/12(Sat) 03:47] <Crowler> what about nick?
[2008/04/12(Sat) 03:47] <itochan> of cource I don't install ICQ client too
[2008/04/12(Sat) 03:49] <itochan> icq don't support Japanese , do it?
[2008/04/12(Sat) 03:49] <Crowler> ehm... i dont know
[2008/04/12(Sat) 03:52] <Crowler> look like its not translated into japanese
[2008/04/12(Sat) 03:53] <Crowler> but here is chinese version, which mean, icq does support double-byte characters
[2008/04/12(Sat) 03:54] <itochan> in my era, it didn't
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[2008/04/12(Sat) 03:56] <Crowler> want to check it out?
[2008/04/12(Sat) 03:56] <itochan> I found my acc and passnow
[2008/04/12(Sat) 03:59] <Crowler> if you use oficial client, it may force you to update on login
[2008/04/12(Sat) 04:00] <Crowler> else it will not work
[2008/04/12(Sat) 04:02] <itochan> 166394969
[2008/04/12(Sat) 04:03] <itochan> now editing;  ah, I should delete age, delete "can speak English"
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[2008/04/12(Sat) 04:06] <itochan> ok. now only "I Speak Japanese"
[2008/04/12(Sat) 04:07] <Crowler> can you see me?
[2008/04/12(Sat) 04:10] <Crowler> hey, i didnt looked your info
[2008/04/12(Sat) 04:11] <itochan> I didn't write that :')
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[2008/04/12(Sat) 04:11] <itochan> nickname - itochan / number 166394969
[2008/04/12(Sat) 04:12] <Crowler> i must be in your nick list already
[2008/04/12(Sat) 04:12] <itochan> needless
[2008/04/12(Sat) 04:13] <itochan> are you Crowler 131027235 ?
[2008/04/12(Sat) 04:14] <Crowler> damn
[2008/04/12(Sat) 04:14] <Crowler> i forgot
[2008/04/12(Sat) 04:14] <Crowler> 379000072
[2008/04/12(Sat) 04:14] <itochan> LOL
[2008/04/12(Sat) 04:15] <itochan>  I am charmed in the flash ad, ICQ SIM Card
[2008/04/12(Sat) 04:16] <Crowler> im on linux, so i dont see icq ads
[2008/04/12(Sat) 04:17] <Crowler> type smth
[2008/04/12(Sat) 04:20] <itochan> http://www.icqsim.com/
[2008/04/12(Sat) 04:20] -CzBot:#japanese- ICQ SIM [text/html]
[2008/04/12(Sat) 04:24] <Crowler> i dont quite understand what they're offer, voice calls or text chat?
[2008/04/12(Sat) 04:25] <itochan> I will try reading such a thing later.
[2008/04/12(Sat) 04:26] <itochan> including the word UMTS
[2008/04/12(Sat) 04:27] <Crowler> why did you left icq so fast?
[2008/04/12(Sat) 04:29] <itochan> icq didn't support Japanese
[2008/04/12(Sat) 04:30] <Crowler> you havent tried now
[2008/04/12(Sat) 04:32] <itochan> I hope it is not  "the Lost Technology"
[2008/04/12(Sat) 04:33] <itochan> in that time , there is no unicode or utf-8 character code, and
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[2008/04/12(Sat) 04:34] <itochan> a
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[2008/04/12(Sat) 04:35] <itochan> japanese is low priority to create, I guess
[2008/04/12(Sat) 04:35] <Crowler> did i missed something?
[2008/04/12(Sat) 04:36] <itochan> no
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[2008/04/12(Sat) 04:43] <itochan> hello?
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[2008/04/12(Sat) 04:45] <itochan> I go to sleep
[2008/04/12(Sat) 04:45] <itochan> bye Crowler
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[2008/04/12(Sat) 23:36] <itochan> hello
[2008/04/12(Sat) 23:37] <itochan> え？
[2008/04/12(Sat) 23:37] <itochan> あう
[2008/04/12(Sat) 23:55] <itochan> どなたかいませんか？
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[2008/04/13(Sun) 00:03] <TERRAZI> おる
[2008/04/13(Sun) 00:05] <itochan> ノルウェー大使館いってきましたよ（自慢
[2008/04/13(Sun) 00:13] <itochan> ほら、やっぱりいないんじゃん
[2008/04/13(Sun) 00:20] <itochan> （しばし放置（たぶん戻ります
[2008/04/13(Sun) 00:21] <TERRAZI> 土産よこせ。
[2008/04/13(Sun) 00:21] <TERRAZI> 寝る。
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[2008/04/14(Mon) 05:06] <Petris> caka masaka
[2008/04/14(Mon) 05:06] <Petris> hyri 
[2008/04/14(Mon) 05:06] <Petris> caka svili
[2008/04/14(Mon) 05:06] <Petris> gon der
[2008/04/14(Mon) 05:06] <Petris> bab
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[2008/04/14(Mon) 23:25] <saitos> 試験、試験中
[2008/04/14(Mon) 23:33] <Kuruma> しけん？
[2008/04/14(Mon) 23:33] <saitos> aa
[2008/04/14(Mon) 23:33] <saitos> 9.5のテスト中
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Session Time: Tue Apr 15 00:00:00 2008
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[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:04] <itochan_da> こん
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:04] <saitos> おお
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:04] <saitos> いとちゃんだー
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:04] <saitos> 先週は行けなくて残念だった
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:05] <Kuruma> いとちゃんだー
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:05] <itochan_da> saitoさんこんばんは
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:05] <Kuruma> 先週は行けなくて残念だった
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:05] <Kuruma> (オウム
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:05] <itochan_da> 顔見せしてきました
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:05] <saitos> 間接的に
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:05] <i_orzccc> 先週は行けなくて残念だった
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:05] <saitos> いとちゃんの話は聞き取りした
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:06] <itochan_da> どんな噂ですか？ｗ
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:06] <saitos> どんなふざけた奴でしたか？と
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:06] <itochan_da> （手が３本に足が４本とか…？ｗ
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:07] <saitos> ま、そんなイベントとは別に
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:07] <saitos> 近くに居るんだし
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:07] <itochan_da> 一応普通のニンゲンなのですが…
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:07] <saitos> 機会を作ってあいましょう、そのうち
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:07] <Kuruma> ：）
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:07] <itochan_da> うむ。
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:07] <Kuruma> umu.
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:07] <itochan_da> 交通費があれば、ね。
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:08] <itochan_da> 今日っていうか、今金欠
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:08] <Kuruma> 住まい遠いんでしたっけか
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:08] <saitos> 市川までなら行くぜ
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:08] <Kuruma> なる＞金穴
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:08] -Kuruma:#japanese- 金穴。。
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:08] <Kuruma> 市川って何処だ＞＜
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:08] <saitos> 錦糸町くらいならなおよい
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:08] <itochan_da> 現金が1400円しかない（銀行残高2000円
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:08] <Kuruma> 千葉方面？
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:08] <Kuruma> それはひどいざんがく。
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:08] <itochan_da> 船橋から新京成線
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:08] <saitos> 津田沼
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:08] <itochan_da> ちがった、船橋市在住で、津田沼からｗ
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:08] <saitos> のほうだよね
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:09] <Kuruma> 横須賀線の行き先としてしか認知してない＞津田沼
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:09] <Kuruma> 地名だけは身近だ
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:09] <itochan_da> こんないなかを認知してくださってありがとう＞くるまさま
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:09] <saitos> 津田沼はとかいだよな
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:09] <Kuruma> とかいですね
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:09] <Kuruma> 行ったことありませんが :p)
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:10] <itochan_da> で、現金のうち、400円は１時間以内に、1000円は朝になってから使う予定
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:11] <Kuruma> 酒と朝食？
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:11] <saitos> あの危険なカップホルダー、もらったの？
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:11] <i_orzccc> あれなぁ
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:11] <saitos> す、すまん
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:11] <itochan_da> カップホルダー、確かにもらいました。使ってないけど。
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:11] <i_orzccc> とりあえずペットボトルねじ込んだが
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:11] <saitos> あはは
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:11] <i_orzccc> 特に意味は無いな
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:12] <Kuruma> あのカップホルダーの面白い使い道を個人的に模索中です
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:13] <itochan_da> 危険っていうのは、紙コップではという意味？
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:13] <saitos> 底に警告文が貼ってあるでしょ
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:13] <itochan_da> 見てみます（ゴソゴソ
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:13] <Kuruma> しらなんだ＞警告文
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:14] <saitos> かなり怖いことが書いてある
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:14] <itochan_da> 発ガン性物質がｗ
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:15] <itochan_da> なるほどね
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:15] <saitos> 切り刻んで庭に撒くと、近所の猫が減るとか
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:16] <saitos> 手術しなくても子猫が生まれなくなるとか
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:16] <saitos> それが正しい使い方かな
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:17] <Kuruma> ！
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:17] <saitos> 手術、数が多いと結構費用がかさむから
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:18] <itochan_da> ・・・
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:18] <saitos> 環境ホルモン系かなあ？
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:19] <saitos> 三浦半島の貝にはメスが多いとかいうし
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:19] <itochan_da> あそうだ、saitoさん、 dragonflyって何してるプロジェクトですか？
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:20] <saitos> え？
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:20] <saitos> バックステージで質問しなかったの？
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:21] <saitos> 誰かしたでしょ？当然
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:21] <Kuruma> まさかしなかったのか
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:21] <Kuruma> ありえん(笑)
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:22] <saitos> しんじられなーーい
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:22] <i_orzccc> 「そんなことよりおぺらたんのはなししようぜ」
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:23] <saitos> きもー
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:23] <Kuruma> っ @Opera_tan
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:23] <itochan_da> 聞かずに帰ってきました:(
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:23] <i_orzccc> Follow した
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:23] <Kuruma> 冨田さんとかに聞けば多分答えてくれたろうに。
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:23] <Kuruma> もったいない。
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:23] <saitos> うん、たぶん
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:23] <itochan_da> （dragonflyって聞くと、ドラゴン＋ハエしか思い浮かばず
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:24] <saitos> あはｈｈ
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:24] <Kuruma> 拭いた
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:24] <Kuruma> 噴いた
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:24] -Kuruma:#japanese- 拭かなくてよろしい
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:24] <itochan_da> 順序逆ｗ＞Kuruma
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:24] <Kuruma> まあきにしないきにしない
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:25] <i_orzccc> @Firefox_ko と @Opera_tan のキャラに差がない
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:25] <itochan_da> これ　→　http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/article/990712/game13.htm
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:25] -CzBot:#japanese- スクリーンショット [text/html]
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:25] <i_orzccc> 両方ネカマ口調だからなぁ
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:25] <i_orzccc> ふぉくすけの中の人を見習うといいよ
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:26] <saitos> ふぉくすけ？ピカチユーじゃなくて？
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:26] <Kuruma> なんぞこれ
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:27] <saitos> ピカチューの劣化コピーでしょ
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:27] <itochan_da> （99って…9年も前なのかorz
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:27] <saitos> あれ、これって言っちゃいけないの？
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:29] <itochan_da> twitterなんですね＜Opera_tan
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:30] <saitos> http://www.itmedia.co.jp/news/articles/0804/14/news097.html
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:30] -CzBot:#japanese- 福岡市営地下鉄は「はやかけん」  - ITmedia News [text/html]
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:30] <itochan_da> あれって市川さんだったかな、携帯のストラップで
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:31] <itochan_da> Firefoxなのを見せたらムッとしてた人
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:31] <itochan_da> いや、いいんだけど。　誰だったか思い出せない…
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:31] <saitos> そんなあ
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:32] <saitos> 社員、誰が行ってたか知らんけど
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:32] <Kuruma> なんて心の狭い人だ
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:32] <itochan_da> 社員の人いっぱいいた。　（いや、ホント誰だか思い出せないんだってば
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:33] <Kuruma> 誰だか知らんけど :p)
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:33] <saitos> いっぱい行ってたのか
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:33] <itochan_da> …要はOperaのが欲しいんだけども…
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:33] <saitos> くれなかったの？
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:33] <Kuruma> ストラップはないんだっけ、今。
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:33] <saitos> いま在庫切れかな
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:34] <saitos> しょうもない会社だな
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:34] <Kuruma> じゃあ今度家にある在庫をitochanにプレゼントするオフを開催しよう
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:34] <itochan_da> いえいえ、ポロシャツもらえただけで満足です。
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:35] <saitos> せめて、ドコモ茸ストラップでもでも配ればよかったのに
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:35] <Kuruma> 何故か我が家にストラップの在庫が若干数ある。
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:35] <saitos> まさか
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:35] <saitos> あの白いポロシャツ？
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:35] <itochan_da> そうそう、私の携帯、 F703i では、OperaMiniやらなんやらも動かないと言われ…
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:35] <itochan_da> 黒っぽい
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:36] <saitos> ほう
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:36] <Kuruma> OperaMiniは
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:36] <itochan_da> まあドコモだししょうがないなーと残念。
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:36] <Kuruma> むしろ国内だと動く端末の方が少ない
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:36] <itochan_da> （人に聞く前に自分で調べればいいのを調べないことに問題がある＞自分
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:36] <saitos> つどこもお客様センターへ電話
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[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:37] <itochan_da> プレゼンやってた人（たぶん鈴木さん【誰】）が、Opera Miniいいですねえと褒めてました
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[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:37] <Kuruma_> なんぞ
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:38] <saitos> ソフトバンクに乗り換えてもいいですかと
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:38] <itochan_da> パケ代が安いって。
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[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:39] <saitos> ドコモはJigに毎月金払って使えって言うんでしょうね
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:41] <saitos> 千葉の山の中はドコモしか電波が届かないのか
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:42] <Kuruma> 酷い言われ用だ
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:44] <saitos> デムパが強いと脳みそ溶けちゃうから WILLCOMが良いよ
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:44] <itochan_da> 前までauでした。ネットは使えなかったけど。
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:45] <saitos> あうは端末に魅力がないからねえ
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:46] <itochan_da> ど・う・し・て・も・ソフトバンクにさせたいんでしょうか？！　:D
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:46] <saitos> 白い犬がうるさいので
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:47] <saitos> Miniがまっとうに動くのもあるし
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:47] <itochan_da> そういえば、ソフトバンクケータイ持って、既に１年になるのか。
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:47] <itochan_da> １銭も払ってないけど。
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:48] <saitos> ともかく、楽しかったんだ＞先週
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:48] <saitos> ようございましたね
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:48] <itochan_da> はい:')
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:49] <saitos> マイクスミスに軟派の手ほどきは受けてきた？
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:50] <Kuruma> http://jp.makezine.com/blog/2008/04/make_tokyo_meeting.html なんかおもろそうだ
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:50] -CzBot:#japanese- MAKE: Japan: Make: Tokyo Meeting開催概要 [text/html]
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:52] <itochan_da> いいえｗ
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:52] <itochan_da> （マイクスミスって名前きいたとき、冗談かと思ったのは内緒
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:53] <saitos> うん、普通そうおもうよね
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:53] <itochan_da> （日本でいえば、田中一郎みたいな名前だもんねぇ
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:53] <Kuruma> たしかに。
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:54] <Kuruma> 英語の教科書にいそうです。
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:54] <itochan_da> いや、いたｗ
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:54] <itochan_da> 私が中学生の頃のニューホライズンには、いた。
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:56] <saitos> 戦前ですか？
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:56] <itochan_da> …
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:58] <saitos> 湾岸戦争前
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:58] <Kuruma> ひどす
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:59] <saitos> じゃあ、ベトナム
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:59] <Kuruma> まあねます
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:59] <Kuruma> おやすみなさいまし
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:59] <saitos> おやすみい
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:59] <itochan_da> おやすみなさい
[2008/04/15(Tue) 01:59] <saitos> 虹だ
[2008/04/15(Tue) 02:00] <saitos> そろそろ寝ないと
[2008/04/15(Tue) 02:00] <saitos> ばあやがうるさいので
[2008/04/15(Tue) 02:01] <saitos> では、ほんと、そのうちお会いしましょう＞itochan_da
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[2008/04/15(Tue) 02:02] <itochan_da> ばあやｗ
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[2008/04/15(Tue) 20:28] <TERRAZI> ただいま。
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[2008/04/15(Tue) 20:53] <NIck2> hi everybody
[2008/04/15(Tue) 20:54] <NIck2> why everybody is silent?
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[2008/04/15(Tue) 21:39] <itochan_d> こん
[2008/04/15(Tue) 22:09] <itochan_d> にちは
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[2008/04/15(Tue) 22:35] <bunty> hi
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[2008/04/15(Tue) 23:09] <itochan_d> こん
[2008/04/15(Tue) 23:09] <saitos> konn
[2008/04/15(Tue) 23:10] <saitos> イトちゃんの写真、どこ？
[2008/04/15(Tue) 23:11] <itochan_d> え？ないでしょ？あるの？
[2008/04/15(Tue) 23:11] <itochan_d> （あったら消してもらいます！
[2008/04/15(Tue) 23:11] <saitos> このへんかな
[2008/04/15(Tue) 23:11] <saitos> http://my.opera.com/chooseopera-Japan/albums/showpic.dml?album=508696&picture=7033429
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[2008/04/15(Tue) 23:12] <saitos> こっちかなあ
[2008/04/15(Tue) 23:12] <saitos> http://my.opera.com/chooseopera-Japan/albums/showpic.dml?album=508696&picture=7033425
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[2008/04/15(Tue) 23:16] <itochan_d> いないっぽい。　ふぅ
[2008/04/15(Tue) 23:16] <saitos> ふう
[2008/04/15(Tue) 23:16] <itochan_d> ヨカッタヨカッタ
[2008/04/15(Tue) 23:18] <saitos> 明日も雨の心配がなさそうで、久々にバイクで長距離乗れるわ
[2008/04/15(Tue) 23:19] <saitos> いとちゃん、このくらいの時間に帰ってきてるの？
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[2008/04/15(Tue) 23:19] <itochan_d> いえ、今日は休み
[2008/04/15(Tue) 23:20] <itochan_d> 普段は23:00過ぎくらいかな
[2008/04/15(Tue) 23:20] <saitos> そうでしたか
[2008/04/15(Tue) 23:20] <saitos> おお、遅いんだね
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[2008/04/15(Tue) 23:32] <Gitara> hello :D
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[2008/04/15(Tue) 23:39] <itochan_d> saitoさん
[2008/04/15(Tue) 23:48] <itochan_d> 何かネタあったら分けてくださいｗ
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[2008/04/16(Wed) 00:09] <itochan_d> 一旦落ちます
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[2008/04/16(Wed) 00:48] <itochan_da> ただいま
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[2008/04/16(Wed) 13:37] <edsan> hallooo.....
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[2008/04/16(Wed) 18:24] <dicekei> http://d.hatena.ne.jp/widgetown/20080219
[2008/04/16(Wed) 18:24] <dicekei> ここのOpera特製ノベルティ当たりました＾＾；
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[2008/04/16(Wed) 18:39] <i_orzccc> おめ！！
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[2008/04/16(Wed) 21:42] <saitos> こんばんは
[2008/04/16(Wed) 21:43] <TERRAZI> わ
[2008/04/16(Wed) 21:43] <saitos> いやあ
[2008/04/16(Wed) 21:44] <saitos> 週末は都合がつかなかった？＞TERRAZI
[2008/04/16(Wed) 21:44] <TERRAZI> 連絡なかったです。
[2008/04/16(Wed) 21:45] <saitos> ありゃ
[2008/04/16(Wed) 21:45] <saitos> 金曜日にオフィスからメール出してたようだけど
[2008/04/16(Wed) 21:46] <TERRAZI> えー
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[2008/04/16(Wed) 21:47] <saitos> それ、届いてない？＞アドレスをかおりさんからきいてたよ
[2008/04/16(Wed) 21:48] <TERRAZI> spam判定されたかー
[2008/04/16(Wed) 21:48] <TERRAZI> どこにだしたんだろう。Operaフィルタにはないや。
[2008/04/16(Wed) 21:48] <saitos> どのアドレスを彼女が教えたかは知らないけど
[2008/04/16(Wed) 21:50] <TERRAZI> opera.comからは来てないみたい。 spamフォルダにもない。
[2008/04/16(Wed) 21:51] <saitos> それは、それは、私としても失礼しました
[2008/04/16(Wed) 21:51] <saitos> 会社に常駐していないので、何かとこんな時にご迷惑をお掛けします
[2008/04/16(Wed) 21:52] <TERRAZI> まぁ、こんなこともあるでしょ。
[2008/04/16(Wed) 21:52] <TERRAZI> メールですから。
[2008/04/16(Wed) 21:52] <saitos> ええ、メールですから
[2008/04/16(Wed) 21:52] <TERRAZI> 間違えて消したのかもしれないし。ってそりゃないかw
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[2008/04/16(Wed) 21:52] <saitos> my operaが止まるように、opera.comのメールサーバも、、
[2008/04/16(Wed) 21:52] <saitos> 以下略
[2008/04/16(Wed) 21:53] <TERRAZI> まじかよw
[2008/04/16(Wed) 21:53] <saitos> 数日後に届いたとか、、聞かない話でもない
[2008/04/16(Wed) 21:54] <saitos> そもそもタイムスタンプが狂うのは日常茶飯事
[2008/04/16(Wed) 21:55] <TERRAZI> にょーん
[2008/04/16(Wed) 21:55] <saitos> 彼の日本での携帯、、会社のラベルが貼ってあったから、それを九州まで持ってゆくかどうかも分からなかったので、番号を教えても、、とか思ってさあ
[2008/04/16(Wed) 21:57] <saitos> メールアドレス、知ってるっけ？
[2008/04/16(Wed) 21:57] <TERRAZI> amataにも悪いことしたなぁ。
[2008/04/16(Wed) 21:57] <TERRAZI> んにゃ。
[2008/04/16(Wed) 21:58] <TERRAZI> ustでバックステージの裏ステージやろうと思ったのにw
[2008/04/16(Wed) 21:58] <saitos> もう帰っちゃったけど、メールでも。。
[2008/04/16(Wed) 21:58] <TERRAZI> うん。
[2008/04/16(Wed) 21:59] <saitos> 見れましたね？
[2008/04/16(Wed) 21:59] <saitos> PM
[2008/04/16(Wed) 21:59] <TERRAZI> 少なくともGmailには来てないなぁ。というかGmailしか使ってないけど。
[2008/04/16(Wed) 22:01] <saitos> ほんと、申し訳ない
[2008/04/16(Wed) 22:01] <TERRAZI> まぁ、しゃーない。
[2008/04/16(Wed) 22:02] <TERRAZI> メモ：Twitter並の信頼度を誇るOperaメール鯖w
[2008/04/16(Wed) 22:03] <saitos> serverなのか、、M2 nanoka
[2008/04/16(Wed) 22:03] <TERRAZI> Gmailは不達は聞かないねぇ。
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[2008/04/16(Wed) 22:03] <saitos> human error かも
[2008/04/16(Wed) 22:03] <TERRAZI> 前にフィルターがおかしくなって、自動転送が止まったことはあったけど。
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[2008/04/16(Wed) 22:05] <saitos> Bad Request　Your browser sent a request that this server could not understand.
[2008/04/16(Wed) 22:06] <saitos> http://ryounkki.seesaa.net/article/93120564.html
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[2008/04/16(Wed) 22:07] <saitos> これなんだけど
[2008/04/16(Wed) 22:08] <TERRAZI> 珍しいねぇ。
[2008/04/16(Wed) 22:09] <saitos> http://blog.seesaa.jp/
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[2008/04/16(Wed) 22:09] <saitos> は生きてるよねえ
[2008/04/16(Wed) 22:10] <saitos> まあ、見れなきゃ見れない方がいいんだけど
[2008/04/16(Wed) 22:10] <TERRAZI> 400返すとか、ふてぇやろうだ。
[2008/04/16(Wed) 22:29] <Kuruma> 説明会行ってくそつまらなかったから放置してたのに
[2008/04/16(Wed) 22:30] <Kuruma> なぜこっちから電話代かけて連絡せにゃならんのだろ
[2008/04/16(Wed) 22:30] <Kuruma> 社会はまったくもって意味分からん。
[2008/04/16(Wed) 22:31] <TERRAZI> 放置はいかんやろ。
[2008/04/16(Wed) 22:33] <TERRAZI> Twitter検索してみると、結構またOpera使い始めたヤツ多いのに、今の状態だと
[2008/04/16(Wed) 22:33] <TERRAZI> ぱっとしたネタをやってやれないなぁ。
[2008/04/16(Wed) 22:33] <Kuruma> いや
[2008/04/16(Wed) 22:34] <Kuruma> 説明会行っただけで
[2008/04/16(Wed) 22:34] <Kuruma> エントリーしてない。
[2008/04/16(Wed) 22:34] <TERRAZI> じゃあほっとけよw
[2008/04/16(Wed) 22:34] <Kuruma> エントリーシートとか履歴書出してるならまだしも。。
[2008/04/16(Wed) 22:34] <Kuruma> SPAM電話ウザイｗ
[2008/04/16(Wed) 22:34] <Kuruma> しかし電話番号が12桁あって
[2008/04/16(Wed) 22:34] <saitos> おほほ
[2008/04/16(Wed) 22:34] <Kuruma> かけられない。
[2008/04/16(Wed) 22:34] <Kuruma> どーしろってんだ
[2008/04/16(Wed) 22:34] <TERRAZI> 電話登録したんだ。
[2008/04/16(Wed) 22:34] <Kuruma> 自宅だけね。
[2008/04/16(Wed) 22:35] <Kuruma> で、どーなったかってーと、親がウザがってるｗ
[2008/04/16(Wed) 22:35] <TERRAZI> そりゃなぁ。
[2008/04/16(Wed) 22:35] <Kuruma> ケータイだけかきゃよかったかもな
[2008/04/16(Wed) 22:35] <TERRAZI> ブラックかもなぁw
[2008/04/16(Wed) 22:36] <Kuruma> エントリーしてない人にまでかけてる辺り、
[2008/04/16(Wed) 22:36] <Kuruma> 人数集まってない。
[2008/04/16(Wed) 22:36] <saitos> 実名露せ！
[2008/04/16(Wed) 22:36] <Kuruma> @summerwind にも電話きてるっぽいしｗ
[2008/04/16(Wed) 22:36] <TERRAZI> 「Opera AS」
[2008/04/16(Wed) 22:36] <saitos> 十分ありうる
[2008/04/16(Wed) 22:37] <Kuruma> ぶ＞Opera AS
[2008/04/16(Wed) 22:37] <Kuruma> たしかに、エントリーしてないですがｗ
[2008/04/16(Wed) 22:37] <Kuruma> あーでも
[2008/04/16(Wed) 22:37] <Kuruma> んー
[2008/04/16(Wed) 22:37] <Kuruma> まーいいか(謎
[2008/04/16(Wed) 22:37] <TERRAZI> おいおいw
[2008/04/16(Wed) 22:52] <saitos> アップル銀座、、誰か行ったのかなあ
[2008/04/16(Wed) 22:52] <i_orzccc> どうだろね
[2008/04/16(Wed) 22:52] <i_orzccc> いこうとしてやめた
[2008/04/16(Wed) 22:52] <i_orzccc> SW のでしょ？
[2008/04/16(Wed) 22:52] <saitos> 仕事で行かせろって交渉した？
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[2008/04/16(Wed) 22:52] <i_orzccc> いやしてない
[2008/04/16(Wed) 22:53] <i_orzccc> Opera かかわってんのか
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[2008/04/16(Wed) 23:26] <itochan_da> こんばんは
[2008/04/16(Wed) 23:27] <saitos> konnbanha
[2008/04/16(Wed) 23:28] <itochan_da> えと、
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[2008/04/16(Wed) 23:28] <saitos> あい
[2008/04/16(Wed) 23:29] <itochan_da> とにかく何かしら「ウェブサイト」を作りたいんですが、何について作ったらいいか考え中
[2008/04/16(Wed) 23:29] <saitos> 「何か」か
[2008/04/16(Wed) 23:34] <itochan_da> ええ。「何か」です。難しい
[2008/04/16(Wed) 23:34] <saitos> モバイルなページがいいよ
[2008/04/16(Wed) 23:34] <itochan_da> とりあえずそれは無理ｗ
[2008/04/16(Wed) 23:34] <saitos> メールを送ると記事が更新できて
[2008/04/16(Wed) 23:34] <itochan_da> 知識ない
[2008/04/16(Wed) 23:35] <saitos> 休み時間ごとに更新し
[2008/04/16(Wed) 23:35] <itochan_da> 休み時間無理
[2008/04/16(Wed) 23:35] <itochan_da> 6時のニュース見るので一生懸命
[2008/04/16(Wed) 23:37] <itochan_da> 「メール送ると記事が更新できる」の　やりかたってどうやればいいんでしょう？参考になるサイトとかあります？
[2008/04/16(Wed) 23:37] <saitos> はてな
[2008/04/16(Wed) 23:37] <itochan_da> 裏側の話
[2008/04/16(Wed) 23:38] <saitos> うーん
[2008/04/16(Wed) 23:38] <itochan_da> たぶん、メールサーバーとウェブサーバーと情報共有／通信しないとだめでしょ
[2008/04/16(Wed) 23:39] <itochan_da> メール側が、何がどうなってるのかさっぱりわからない
[2008/04/16(Wed) 23:41] <itochan_da> それに、変換の仕方もわからない。　とにかく何もわからないｗｗ
[2008/04/16(Wed) 23:42] <saitos> ならば
[2008/04/16(Wed) 23:42] <saitos> 「何か」の中身がモバイル
[2008/04/16(Wed) 23:43] <saitos> これからはモバイルですから
[2008/04/16(Wed) 23:43] <saitos> モバゲーのサイトをやったらいい
[2008/04/16(Wed) 23:43] <itochan_da> …　どうしてもモバイルにしたいんですかｗ
[2008/04/16(Wed) 23:44] <itochan_da> そもそもケータイ知識が何もないんだってば。
[2008/04/16(Wed) 23:44] <saitos> ターゲットにしたい読者層は？
[2008/04/16(Wed) 23:44] <itochan_da> 読者はあんまり関係ない
[2008/04/16(Wed) 23:44] <saitos> 誰に向けて発信するの？
[2008/04/16(Wed) 23:44] <itochan_da> 発信もあんまり関係ない
[2008/04/16(Wed) 23:45] <saitos> 関係ないなら、、くるくる糸巻きのままでいいい
[2008/04/16(Wed) 23:45] <itochan_da> だけど、ウェブサイトが必要
[2008/04/16(Wed) 23:45] <saitos> てくてく*
[2008/04/16(Wed) 23:45] <itochan_da> :/
[2008/04/16(Wed) 23:46] <saitos> 自分のドメイン上でblogしたいの？
[2008/04/16(Wed) 23:46] <itochan_da> blogは既にやってる
[2008/04/16(Wed) 23:47] <saitos> くるくる糸巻き？
[2008/04/16(Wed) 23:47] <itochan_da> そうそう。stereologっていうblogで動いてる
[2008/04/16(Wed) 23:47] <itochan_da> うぐぅ…くるくるで「そうそう」とか言ってしまったｗ
[2008/04/16(Wed) 23:48] <saitos> そこで満足ならサイトは、、要らない？
[2008/04/16(Wed) 23:48] <saitos> ファイルをおきたいとか
[2008/04/16(Wed) 23:48] <itochan_da> CMSって単語わかります？ content management system
[2008/04/16(Wed) 23:49] <saitos> ああ、Operaが採用しない奴だ
[2008/04/16(Wed) 23:50] <itochan_da> オープンソースの某CMSを、とりあえず運用して勝手を理解したいんだけど、　コンテンツがないとどうしようもない
[2008/04/16(Wed) 23:50] <itochan_da> だから、「何か」
[2008/04/16(Wed) 23:50] <saitos> XOOPSとか
[2008/04/16(Wed) 23:51] <saitos> Operaのコンテンツを片っ端から訳しまくってやるとか
[2008/04/16(Wed) 23:51] <itochan_da> 今のイチオシは Joomla! 1.5 （ http://www.joomla.jp ）なんだけど、それではない別の何か（よく似てるやつｗ　ぱちもん？
[2008/04/16(Wed) 23:51] -CzBot:#japanese- Joomla!じゃぱん [text/html; charset=UTF-8]
[2008/04/16(Wed) 23:52] <saitos> 例のOpera翻訳ボランティアをそこでやるとか
[2008/04/16(Wed) 23:53] <saitos> 江戸幕府にも話を振って
[2008/04/16(Wed) 23:54] <itochan_da> 一応今日考えたのは、 Firefoxのアドオンを、Operaだとどうするみたいな、　そういうのがどっかにまとまってたはずだから
[2008/04/16(Wed) 23:54] <itochan_da> それをぱくろうかと
[2008/04/16(Wed) 23:54] <saitos> ああ
[2008/04/16(Wed) 23:54] <itochan_da> そういうのをやろうかとｗ
[2008/04/16(Wed) 23:55] <saitos> http://files.myopera.com/Rijk/blog/extensions.html
[2008/04/16(Wed) 23:55] -CzBot:#japanese- Top 150 Popular Firefox Extensions and Opera [text/html; charset=utf-8]
[2008/04/16(Wed) 23:55] <itochan_da> おお、そうそう。こういうの。
[2008/04/16(Wed) 23:56] <itochan_da> ばらした方が読みやすいでしょ？
[2008/04/16(Wed) 23:56] <itochan_da> （日本語でもあった気がする
[2008/04/16(Wed) 23:56] <saitos> かも
[2008/04/16(Wed) 23:56] <saitos> 真面目にやるには値しない
[2008/04/16(Wed) 23:57] <itochan_da> ぱくりはダメかなぁ
[2008/04/16(Wed) 23:58] <itochan_da> http://kawatarou.info/opera/opera_firefox.htm
[2008/04/16(Wed) 23:58] -CzBot:#japanese- Firefoxの拡張機能とOpera [text/html]
[2008/04/16(Wed) 23:58] <itochan_da> あしづかさんか。
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[2008/04/17(Thu) 00:01] <saitos> ねるる
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[2008/04/17(Thu) 01:50] <Rei> ・
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[2008/04/17(Thu) 01:52] <Rei> ﾟ・�U・・鞣褪
[2008/04/17(Thu) 01:53] <Rei> ・�� ・�
[2008/04/17(Thu) 01:57] <itochan_da> 読めません
[2008/04/17(Thu) 01:59] <Oberon> he says, you all are dumb, because you cant read what he wrote here )
[2008/04/17(Thu) 02:02] <itochan_da> shall I kick off him?
[2008/04/17(Thu) 02:02] <Oberon> if anyone of you was insulted - sure you shall
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[2008/04/17(Thu) 02:04] <Rei> Japan and ���琲�・friends?
[2008/04/17(Thu) 02:05] <Oberon> friends?
[2008/04/17(Thu) 02:05] <Rei> Japan and Ukrain friends?
[2008/04/17(Thu) 02:05] <Oberon> after "loxi"?
[2008/04/17(Thu) 02:06] <Oberon> man, you sure you didnt messed up somewhere?
[2008/04/17(Thu) 02:06] <Rei> loxi means friends))))
[2008/04/17(Thu) 02:07] <Oberon> go f**k yourself with such explanations
[2008/04/17(Thu) 02:09] <Rei> What for offend.? I with all my heart and pure soul ・裝・聰� friendship to Japanese..
[2008/04/17(Thu) 02:09] <Rei> What for offend.? I with all my heart and pure soul offer friendship to Japanese..
[2008/04/17(Thu) 02:11] <Oberon> doesnt look like this for me
[2008/04/17(Thu) 02:12] <Oberon> and btw, there is no letter "o" in "predlagaju"
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[2008/04/17(Thu) 02:13] <Rei> I wished to offend nobody. And wished to learn - whether there is who alive in a chat..
[2008/04/17(Thu) 02:14] <Oberon> thats what you had to begin with
[2008/04/17(Thu) 02:15] <Rei> About o I have already understood...
[2008/04/17(Thu) 02:17] <Rei> The main thing not how to begin - the main thing how to finish...
[2008/04/17(Thu) 02:18] <Oberon> if someone of them somehow get interested in what you are, then maybe that someone will begin to talk with you
[2008/04/17(Thu) 02:20] <Oberon> we here seen lots of ppl joining room just to say "hi", or even dont say anything at all
[2008/04/17(Thu) 02:21] <Rei> Thanks for an explanation.... And attention paid to me....
[2008/04/17(Thu) 02:21] <itochan_da> hi :)
[2008/04/17(Thu) 02:22] <Rei> Hi
[2008/04/17(Thu) 02:22] <Oberon> こん
[2008/04/17(Thu) 02:24] <Rei> Keyboards with hieroglyphs at me are not present.... Unfortunately (((
[2008/04/17(Thu) 02:26] <itochan_da> in this chat room, we can use only Japanse character and ASCII character .
[2008/04/17(Thu) 02:26] <Oberon> there is no such keyboards even in japan (with 6355 keys)
[2008/04/17(Thu) 02:26] <Rei> I also have not come on here... The Japanese culture simply very is pleasant... Itself I am engaged in karate...
[2008/04/17(Thu) 02:26] <itochan_da> (not ancient Egypcian 
[2008/04/17(Thu) 02:27] <Oberon> they had keyboards? )
[2008/04/17(Thu) 02:27] <itochan_da> maybe not. ( Egyptian ? )
[2008/04/17(Thu) 02:28] <Oberon> well, i suppose some of them were able to make keyboards made of stone )
[2008/04/17(Thu) 02:30] <Rei> Oberon: You not the Japanese how much I have understood?
[2008/04/17(Thu) 02:30] <Oberon> right
[2008/04/17(Thu) 02:32] <Rei> Oberon: And live in Japan?
[2008/04/17(Thu) 02:33] <Oberon> i am thinking about it
[2008/04/17(Thu) 02:34] <itochan_da> I am in Japan
[2008/04/17(Thu) 02:36] <Rei> I love the Japanese single combats.... In my opinion fighting arts of Japan are brought to perfection... Especially to me to like them  rationalism...
[2008/04/17(Thu) 02:37] <itochan_da> I have neither karate nor judo skill
[2008/04/17(Thu) 02:39] <Oberon> i doubt you will find here any fighter to talk with, though there are many various PE related clubs in japanese schools
[2008/04/17(Thu) 02:39] <itochan_da> but many foreigners charmed such fighting arts (and bushido)
[2008/04/17(Thu) 02:40] <Rei> itochan_da: But now in my country (Ukraine) the Japanese single combats and the Japanese cars)))) are popular
[2008/04/17(Thu) 02:40] <itochan_da> ^_^;
[2008/04/17(Thu) 02:42] <Oberon> ppl here (at least those, who talk) are quite past their school days
[2008/04/17(Thu) 02:42] <Oberon> am i right, itochan?
[2008/04/17(Thu) 02:44] <Rei> Yes... It is the truth... The moral code of Samurais and east philosophy (wisdom)... It is very necessary to the Western world...
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[2008/04/17(Thu) 02:46] <itochan_da> maybe yes( quite past ...)
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[2008/04/17(Thu) 02:49] <itochan_da> Renaissanse hasn't come yet in Japan
[2008/04/17(Thu) 02:50] <itochan_da> many of us lost mind of Samrai
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[2008/04/17(Thu) 02:50] <itochan_da> まてｗ
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[2008/04/17(Thu) 02:51] <Oberon> ./mode #japanese +b rhino9 ?
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[2008/04/17(Thu) 02:52] <Rei> And I thought, that all Japanese courageous Samurais about the birthes carefully storing secrets of east wisdom and secrets of fighting arts((((((
[2008/04/17(Thu) 02:52] <itochan_da> I don't know > Oberon:
[2008/04/17(Thu) 02:52] <Oberon> rhino*!*@*
[2008/04/17(Thu) 02:53] <Oberon> seems like JapanBot have to be upgraded to join-flood protected version
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[2008/04/17(Thu) 02:55] <Rei>  It turns out that Europeans study the Japanese culture, than Japanese more...
[2008/04/17(Thu) 02:55] <itochan_da> 7% of Japanese are Samrai in Edo era, and 80% of us are just farmer.
[2008/04/17(Thu) 02:56] <Oberon> i just wanted to point this out, but we were distracted
[2008/04/17(Thu) 02:58] <Oberon> but those 7% did a lot for todays japan
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[2008/04/17(Thu) 02:59] <itochan_da> someone says we must watch at more farmer's culture , for ourself
[2008/04/17(Thu) 03:00] <itochan_da> yes, in politics yes.
[2008/04/17(Thu) 03:01] <itochan_da> in movie yes ^_^;
[2008/04/17(Thu) 03:01] <Oberon> i'd say you should watch more at science
[2008/04/17(Thu) 03:02] <Oberon> electronics in particular
[2008/04/17(Thu) 03:03] <itochan_da> "shi nou kou shou" means Samrai , farmer , craftsmen, and trader. ( sorry my low english level
[2008/04/17(Thu) 03:03] <Rei> Clearly... Japan for the simple European inhabitant - the country surrounded by myths and legends... And the truth, as always, is prosy.
[2008/04/17(Thu) 03:04] <Oberon> china can produce tons of IC chips, but those chips have to be designed beforehead by someone
[2008/04/17(Thu) 03:05] <itochan_da> "ukiyoe" , "kabuki" or something are made from latter two class.
[2008/04/17(Thu) 03:07] <Oberon> 浮世絵は何ですか
[2008/04/17(Thu) 03:07] <Oberon> the translation i have seems to be quite wrong
[2008/04/17(Thu) 03:08] <itochan_da> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukiyo-e
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[2008/04/17(Thu) 03:08] <Oberon> "more historical" to be precise
[2008/04/17(Thu) 03:10] <itochan_da> more ?
[2008/04/17(Thu) 03:11] <Rei> Probably at us so east fighting arts are developed... So criminal conditions in my country strained enough... People wish to be able itself to protect...
[2008/04/17(Thu) 03:11] <Oberon> no, thanks, itochan
[2008/04/17(Thu) 03:14] <itochan_da> pardon (sorry),  > criminal conditions strained enough
[2008/04/17(Thu) 03:15] <itochan_da> go worse?
[2008/04/17(Thu) 03:16] <Oberon> kind of yes, if compared to former ussr
[2008/04/17(Thu) 03:17] <itochan_da> with bushido mind?
[2008/04/17(Thu) 03:17] <Rei> And the more in a civilized way the country, the less wishing to study to fight.... And the hope for police is more...))))
[2008/04/17(Thu) 03:18] <Oberon> not agree
[2008/04/17(Thu) 03:19] <itochan_da> ah, from now ppl start learning such a thing
[2008/04/17(Thu) 03:19] <Oberon> in my opinion, the best way to protect yourself, even for a weak one, is USA's
[2008/04/17(Thu) 03:19] <Oberon>  with their right to bear arms
[2008/04/17(Thu) 03:21] <Oberon> and as someone said, "only that goverment which afriad of their own ppl do not give them such right"
[2008/04/17(Thu) 03:21] <Oberon> afraid of*
[2008/04/17(Thu) 03:22] <Oberon> the club (as weapon) made man
[2008/04/17(Thu) 03:22] <Oberon> and now we have no right to bear it?
[2008/04/17(Thu) 03:23] <Oberon> sh*t
[2008/04/17(Thu) 03:24] <itochan_da> wear arms?
[2008/04/17(Thu) 03:25] <itochan_da> or take off weapons?
[2008/04/17(Thu) 03:25] <itochan_da> < "bear arms"
[2008/04/17(Thu) 03:26] <Oberon> "bear" is used for tools and "wear" is used for clothes
[2008/04/17(Thu) 03:26] <Oberon> you dont put wrench _on_ yourself, right?
[2008/04/17(Thu) 03:26] <itochan_da> ( I thought of "bare" word
[2008/04/17(Thu) 03:27] <Oberon> you put it _in your hand_
[2008/04/17(Thu) 03:28] <Rei> Good-bye... At me business...  We shall communicate later...If will be not against..))))))))
[2008/04/17(Thu) 03:28] <Oberon> see you later
[2008/04/17(Thu) 03:28] <itochan_da> ok, you think the best way to protect ourselves is  "guns"
[2008/04/17(Thu) 03:28] <itochan_da> see you
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[2008/04/17(Thu) 03:29] <Oberon> that's exactly what i think about, itochan
[2008/04/17(Thu) 03:30] <Oberon> i am old enough to spend 5-10 years on training in martial arts
[2008/04/17(Thu) 03:32] <itochan_da> maybe you are right, to fight against criminal person
[2008/04/17(Thu) 03:34] <itochan_da> and I know many criminals with guns occur even in Japan
[2008/04/17(Thu) 03:34] <Oberon> to protect myself against anything behaving hostile
[2008/04/17(Thu) 03:34] <itochan_da> sometimes.
[2008/04/17(Thu) 03:35] <Oberon> i am not going to _fight_ anyone
[2008/04/17(Thu) 03:37] <Oberon> maybe its my personal feeling, but "fight" is strongly associated with "attack" for me
[2008/04/17(Thu) 03:38] <itochan_da> police have guns even in Japan, I know
[2008/04/17(Thu) 03:38] <Oberon> police in Japan have guns??
[2008/04/17(Thu) 03:39] <Oberon> i heard different things
[2008/04/17(Thu) 03:39] <itochan_da> (and more, JSDF and hunters have guns; other ppls are restricted to hold guns
[2008/04/17(Thu) 03:39] <itochan_da> JSDF = japanese army
[2008/04/17(Thu) 03:40] <Oberon> i know
[2008/04/17(Thu) 03:40] <itochan_da> police have.
[2008/04/17(Thu) 03:41] <itochan_da> did you hear japanese police don't have guns?
[2008/04/17(Thu) 03:41] <itochan_da> have you heard ...
[2008/04/17(Thu) 03:44] <Oberon> of what?
[2008/04/17(Thu) 03:44] <itochan_da> ah, most have pistol
[2008/04/17(Thu) 03:45] <itochan_da> a few of them have (long) guns
[2008/04/17(Thu) 03:46] <itochan_da> them= police
[2008/04/17(Thu) 03:46] <Oberon> shotguns
[2008/04/17(Thu) 03:46] <Oberon> you mean
[2008/04/17(Thu) 03:47] <Oberon> never played "doom"? )
[2008/04/17(Thu) 03:47] <itochan_da> rifle (? ライフル
[2008/04/17(Thu) 03:47] <Oberon> eh... 
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[2008/04/17(Thu) 03:48] <Oberon> shotguns shot barrels
[2008/04/17(Thu) 03:48] <Oberon> rifles shot bullets
[2008/04/17(Thu) 03:48] <itochan_da> maybe they have no shotgun ; it shot wide area
[2008/04/17(Thu) 03:49] <itochan_da> I know hunters use shotguns
[2008/04/17(Thu) 03:49] <Oberon> wide area is for barrels, not for bullets
[2008/04/17(Thu) 03:50] <Oberon> hunters use shotguns to hunt something small , like birds
[2008/04/17(Thu) 03:51] <Oberon> but if you going to hunt bear, you need rifle
[2008/04/17(Thu) 03:52] <itochan_da> I am not so good at guns because
[2008/04/17(Thu) 03:52] <itochan_da> I have not any.
[2008/04/17(Thu) 03:52] <Oberon> even for hunting wolf rifle is preferred
[2008/04/17(Thu) 03:53] <Oberon> but if you going to _protect_ yourself against them, shotgun is better
[2008/04/17(Thu) 03:53] <Oberon> because it does alot of damage on short distances
[2008/04/17(Thu) 03:54] <itochan_da> I C, yes
[2008/04/17(Thu) 03:56] <itochan_da> the reason I think police don't equip shotguns is shotgun will overkill
[2008/04/17(Thu) 03:56] <itochan_da> :D
[2008/04/17(Thu) 03:57] <Oberon> what i am trying to tell you is that your cops bear exactly shotguns, because its defencive weapon
[2008/04/17(Thu) 03:57] <Oberon> defensive*
[2008/04/17(Thu) 03:58] <itochan_da> hmm
[2008/04/17(Thu) 03:59] <Oberon> no one will let them walk on streets with m16 on hands
[2008/04/17(Thu) 03:59] <Oberon> it will be army then. not police
[2008/04/17(Thu) 04:02] <itochan_da> you re right
[2008/04/17(Thu) 04:03] <Oberon> you have to play more action games ))
[2008/04/17(Thu) 04:04] <itochan_da> and I selecet  "wizard" class :D
[2008/04/17(Thu) 04:04] <Oberon> hey
[2008/04/17(Thu) 04:04] <itochan_da> cast a magic !
[2008/04/17(Thu) 04:04] <Oberon> there it no classes
[2008/04/17(Thu) 04:05] <itochan_da> ouch
[2008/04/17(Thu) 04:05] <Oberon> just you, your gun and your enemy in scope
[2008/04/17(Thu) 04:06] <itochan_da> and be shot by enemy behind me.
[2008/04/17(Thu) 04:06] <Oberon> you have brains to deal with it
[2008/04/17(Thu) 04:07] <Oberon> and also you have strategy and tactic
[2008/04/17(Thu) 04:07] <Oberon> choose wrong one and you dead
[2008/04/17(Thu) 04:08] <Oberon> try COD 4: Modern Warfare
[2008/04/17(Thu) 04:09] <Oberon> well suit for newcomers in world of action games
[2008/04/17(Thu) 04:10] <Oberon> and dont tell me that you never heard of such thing as cybersport
[2008/04/17(Thu) 04:27] <Oberon> sorry, itochan, i going to eat and sleep. oyasumi (in case you still not fallen asleep)
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[2008/04/17(Thu) 16:26] <Naruto> hi
[2008/04/17(Thu) 16:26] <Naruto> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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[2008/04/17(Thu) 21:29] <nyomos> こんばんわん。
[2008/04/17(Thu) 21:35] <TERRAZI> やあ
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[2008/04/17(Thu) 22:36] <dicekei> こんばんわ
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[2008/04/17(Thu) 23:02] <Oberon> wow, きさらぎさんここにいる
[2008/04/17(Thu) 23:22] <kisaragi> はい，いますよ☆
[2008/04/17(Thu) 23:23] <kisaragi> join flood protection　設定しました
[2008/04/17(Thu) 23:23] <kisaragi> ５秒間に５人以上join したらアウトね
[2008/04/17(Thu) 23:24] <Oberon> ありがとう
[2008/04/17(Thu) 23:24] <kisaragi> また意見があればお知らせください♪
[2008/04/17(Thu) 23:26] <TERRAZI>  ５秒間に５人以上女陰したらアウトね
[2008/04/17(Thu) 23:27] <kisaragi> はい，アウト！
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[2008/04/17(Thu) 23:42] <Oberon> 何これ凄い漢字だった? 「上女陰」
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[2008/04/18(Fri) 00:14] <itochan_da> こんばんは
[2008/04/18(Fri) 00:15] <Oberon> kon
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[2008/04/18(Fri) 07:46] <papaja> any girl from japan for a chat with a boy from europe26
[2008/04/18(Fri) 07:46] <JapanBot> There are no girls here. Sorry.
[2008/04/18(Fri) 07:47] <papaja> only motorcycles?
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[2008/04/18(Fri) 20:52] <BiBo> lol
[2008/04/18(Fri) 20:52] <BiBo> B-Boys ?
[2008/04/18(Fri) 20:52] <BiBo> Break Dancers,
[2008/04/18(Fri) 20:52] <BiBo> |?????
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[2008/04/18(Fri) 23:19] <TERRAZI> ただいま
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[2008/04/19(Sat) 01:05] <itochan_da> こん
[2008/04/19(Sat) 01:10] <Oberon> こんばんは
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[2008/04/19(Sat) 01:18] <itochan_da> だめだ、原因不明だけどOperaが落ちる（8.0）
[2008/04/19(Sat) 01:18] <i_orzccc> 8.0？
[2008/04/19(Sat) 01:18] <i_orzccc> OS はなんですか
[2008/04/19(Sat) 01:24] <itochan_da> win98
[2008/04/19(Sat) 01:24] <itochan_da> ftpソフトも立ちあがらなくなってるし、いろいろダメポ
[2008/04/19(Sat) 01:25] <itochan_da> （98SEね
[2008/04/19(Sat) 01:31] <itochan_da> i_orzcccさん
[2008/04/19(Sat) 01:31] <i_orzccc> 98 にゃ 9.x きついんですか？
[2008/04/19(Sat) 01:32] <itochan_da> ああ、9.xは動きません（少なくとも今のブッコワレ環境ではｗ
[2008/04/19(Sat) 01:32] <i_orzccc> へえー
[2008/04/19(Sat) 01:32] <i_orzccc> 9.2x は 8.x より安定している印象があるが
[2008/04/19(Sat) 01:32] <itochan_da> i_orzccc さんじゃなくて何と呼べば…
[2008/04/19(Sat) 01:32] <i_orzccc> スペック的には無理してるのかな
[2008/04/19(Sat) 01:33] <i_orzccc> アイ / 哀 / i と名乗っております
[2008/04/19(Sat) 01:33] <itochan_da> いえ、あちこちOSがブッコワレてます。 アプリケーションの削除となんとかも「開けない」
[2008/04/19(Sat) 01:33] <i_orzccc> オワットルｗ
[2008/04/19(Sat) 01:33] <itochan_da> だから、バージョン違いのOperaがアチコチに点在（消せないｗ）
[2008/04/19(Sat) 01:34] <itochan_da> えっと、iさんに質問。　TOEICとかわかります？
[2008/04/19(Sat) 01:35] <i_orzccc> TOEIC の何ですか？
[2008/04/19(Sat) 01:35] <i_orzccc> 一回受けたことありますよ
[2008/04/19(Sat) 01:35] <itochan_da> ウェブで無料で点数の推定サイトとかないですか？
[2008/04/19(Sat) 01:36] <i_orzccc> 公式サイトにサンプル質問がありますが
[2008/04/19(Sat) 01:36] <i_orzccc> それと、他の検定（全国英検・TOEFL）のスコアとの相当比較とか
[2008/04/19(Sat) 01:37] <i_orzccc> ただ、何問も解かせてより厳密な推定を出すってサービスは知らないです
[2008/04/19(Sat) 01:37] <i_orzccc> iKnow! にもしかしたらあるかもね
[2008/04/19(Sat) 01:37] <itochan_da> いや、英検はふるーーいのはあるけど、TOEFLも全くやってないので。
[2008/04/19(Sat) 01:38] <itochan_da> これでも、英検３級とってるんですよ、自慢にならないし、　今まずとれないけどｗ
[2008/04/19(Sat) 01:39] <i_orzccc> TOEIC は TOEFL と違って易しいし受験時間も短く「慣れ」が必要ないので
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[2008/04/19(Sat) 01:39] <i_orzccc> 一回受けて得た点数がまぁ大体自分の実力ですね
[2008/04/19(Sat) 01:39] <Oberon> TOEFL - for international students, TOEIC - to be able to get a job, as far as i know
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[2008/04/19(Sat) 01:39] <i_orzccc> Oberon: that's basically right
[2008/04/19(Sat) 01:40] <i_orzccc> そして何より TOEIC は安い。
[2008/04/19(Sat) 01:40] <itochan_da> いくらですか？
[2008/04/19(Sat) 01:40] <i_orzccc> ので一回受けてみりゃいいと思いますが。
[2008/04/19(Sat) 01:40] <i_orzccc> それは調べるとすぐでてきますよ :)
[2008/04/19(Sat) 01:40] <i_orzccc> まぁ5〜6000円だったはず
[2008/04/19(Sat) 01:40] <itochan_da> 今、googleのモードを英語モードにしてるので…面倒なのです。
[2008/04/19(Sat) 01:41] <itochan_da> 高いじゃん
[2008/04/19(Sat) 01:41] <i_orzccc> TOEFL は12000円くらい
[2008/04/19(Sat) 01:41] <i_orzccc> 安いです
[2008/04/19(Sat) 01:41] <i_orzccc> あれ、もっとしたっけな
[2008/04/19(Sat) 01:42] <itochan_da> TOEFL / 60 USD … 高過ぎ
[2008/04/19(Sat) 01:42] <itochan_da> （調べてないからね
[2008/04/19(Sat) 01:42] <itochan_da> ミス
[2008/04/19(Sat) 01:42] <itochan_da> miss
[2008/04/19(Sat) 01:42] <itochan_da> TOEICが 60USDとしたら 高過ぎ
[2008/04/19(Sat) 01:42] <itochan_da> TOEFLが 120USD？
[2008/04/19(Sat) 01:42] <itochan_da> （約
[2008/04/19(Sat) 01:43] <i_orzccc> 130USD くらいだったかなあ
[2008/04/19(Sat) 01:43] <i_orzccc> TOEIC はそんなもん
[2008/04/19(Sat) 01:44] <itochan_da> TOEIC ＞受験料 6,615円
[2008/04/19(Sat) 01:46] <itochan_da> TOEFL受験料金　：　US170ドル
[2008/04/19(Sat) 01:46] <itochan_da> 無理。手が出ません
[2008/04/19(Sat) 01:48] <i_orzccc> TOEFLは留学しないなら要らんよ
[2008/04/19(Sat) 01:49] <i_orzccc> まぁ留学した俺は地獄を味わったが。
[2008/04/19(Sat) 01:49] <i_orzccc> 交通の乱れで受験時間に間に合わず交通費含め3万円近くが吹っ飛んだときは泣きそうになった
[2008/04/19(Sat) 01:51] <itochan_da> どっちで地獄？留学前？留学中？
[2008/04/19(Sat) 01:52] <itochan_da> 留学中に地獄なのであれば、テストは有用ってことだから…
[2008/04/19(Sat) 01:54] <i_orzccc> 両方だな
[2008/04/19(Sat) 01:54] <i_orzccc> 留学後一ヶ月はまさに。
[2008/04/19(Sat) 01:55] <i_orzccc> 留学開始後一ヶ月はまさに。
[2008/04/19(Sat) 01:55] <itochan_da> じゃあTOEFL自体は有用ってことか。
[2008/04/19(Sat) 01:55] <i_orzccc> どうかな。まぁ生きた状況は作られたサンプルと違う
[2008/04/19(Sat) 01:55] <itochan_da> 最低限やらなきゃならない部分ってことですもんね。
[2008/04/19(Sat) 01:56] <i_orzccc> それはその通りだと思います
[2008/04/19(Sat) 01:56] <i_orzccc> 無駄にはならん
[2008/04/19(Sat) 01:56] <i_orzccc> 留学生活に頻出する語彙が特に出るので。TOEFL には。
[2008/04/19(Sat) 01:57] <itochan_da> ふむ。
[2008/04/19(Sat) 01:58] <i_orzccc> TOEIC もまぁ割と生きたサンプル
[2008/04/19(Sat) 01:58] <i_orzccc> 最近は特に改良されたみたいで。
[2008/04/19(Sat) 01:58] <i_orzccc> そのための勉強は無駄にはならないと思います
[2008/04/19(Sat) 01:59] <i_orzccc> 合わせて高いスコア得られれば素直に一石二鳥といえるでしょう
[2008/04/19(Sat) 01:59] <i_orzccc> コストに見合ってる
[2008/04/19(Sat) 01:59] <i_orzccc> TOEFL はコストがでかすぎる
[2008/04/19(Sat) 01:59] <itochan_da> 低いスコアなら？ｗ
[2008/04/19(Sat) 01:59] <i_orzccc> 一石一長です
[2008/04/19(Sat) 01:59] <i_orzccc> 一石一鳥です
[2008/04/19(Sat) 01:59] <itochan_da> ｗｗｗ
[2008/04/19(Sat) 02:00] <i_orzccc> 勉強して得られた知識だけ。
[2008/04/19(Sat) 02:00] <itochan_da> 無駄ではないんだろうけど。
[2008/04/19(Sat) 02:00] <i_orzccc> まぁそろそろ仕事に戻りますね
[2008/04/19(Sat) 02:01] <itochan_da> はい、ありがとうございました
[2008/04/19(Sat) 02:01] <i_orzccc> どういたしまして。〜
[2008/04/19(Sat) 02:01] <itochan_da> （何も根拠はないんだけど、 400点は切るだろうなー
[2008/04/19(Sat) 02:01] <i_orzccc> ああ最後に
[2008/04/19(Sat) 02:02] <i_orzccc> 言語は継続しないと覚えられません
[2008/04/19(Sat) 02:02] <i_orzccc> 塾でもiKnowでもなんでもいいですが
[2008/04/19(Sat) 02:02] <itochan_da> それはそうです。私が英検３級とったときは、英語塾通ってたからとれたようなもので
[2008/04/19(Sat) 02:02] <i_orzccc> 一気にまとめてやろうとしても一部の天才じゃなきゃ能力はあがりません
[2008/04/19(Sat) 02:03] <i_orzccc> のでごちゃごちゃ考えるまえにまず始めたほうがいいです
[2008/04/19(Sat) 02:03] <itochan_da> …
[2008/04/19(Sat) 02:03] <i_orzccc> 試験でいい点を、とか就職、とか留学、とかって目標があるとさらによいでしょうね
[2008/04/19(Sat) 02:03] <itochan_da> んー、目標は特にない
[2008/04/19(Sat) 02:04] <i_orzccc> ですか。まぁ応援してますよ。
[2008/04/19(Sat) 02:04] <i_orzccc> んではこんどこそ。〜
[2008/04/19(Sat) 02:04] <itochan_da> はい、ありがとうございます。
[2008/04/19(Sat) 02:04] <itochan_da> 目的ないからモチベーションが…ねぇorz
[2008/04/19(Sat) 02:05] <itochan_da> 留学するわけでもなし、旅行するお金もなし、
[2008/04/19(Sat) 02:05] <itochan_da> せいぜい今読んでるウェブをもっと快適に、ってだけだから…
[2008/04/19(Sat) 02:16] <Oberon> if to speak about prices...
[2008/04/19(Sat) 02:16] <Oberon> なぜ日本に問芝のバッテリパックの価格はそんな高いですか
[2008/04/19(Sat) 02:17] <itochan_da> Toshiba ? 東芝？
[2008/04/19(Sat) 02:17] <Oberon> hai
[2008/04/19(Sat) 02:18] <Oberon> 1。68万
[2008/04/19(Sat) 02:18] <Oberon> でも、外人のサイトの価格は0。8万です
[2008/04/19(Sat) 02:19] <itochan_da> hmmm, japanese premium ? :D
[2008/04/19(Sat) 02:19] <Oberon> i dont know, but i was really... ehm... "impressed"
[2008/04/19(Sat) 02:21] <itochan_da> which one do you mean http://shopping.yahoo.com/s:Batteries:4168-Brand=Toshiba
[2008/04/19(Sat) 02:21] -CzBot:#japanese- Toshiba Batteries: Find, Compare, Read Reviews & Buy Online ... [text/html; charset=utf-8]
[2008/04/19(Sat) 02:21] <Oberon> http://www3.toshiba.co.jp/jdirect/p/o/PA2458U_R/
[2008/04/19(Sat) 02:21] -CzBot:#japanese- 大容量バッテリパック PA2458U_R　注文ページ [text/html]
[2008/04/19(Sat) 02:24] <Oberon> personally i am going to buy some rechargeable batteries, disassemble that PA2458U_R and replace those which are dead
[2008/04/19(Sat) 02:28] <itochan_da> maybe official site shows "maker price",  and other sites show their "shop price" 
[2008/04/19(Sat) 02:30] <Oberon> but usually, the more far product is from vendor, the higher the price is, right?
[2008/04/19(Sat) 03:12] <Oberon> itochan
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[2008/04/20(Sun) 01:38] <itochan_da> えっと
[2008/04/20(Sun) 01:39] <itochan_da> …いなさそうだから　さらば！
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[2008/04/20(Sun) 01:47] <Oberon> え? なんだこれは? なにさそうだ? どこに?
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[2008/04/21(Mon) 01:51] <itochan_da> now, I start runnning virus checker
[2008/04/21(Mon) 01:52] <itochan_da> good night
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[2008/04/21(Mon) 20:32] <TERRAZI> ただいま。
[2008/04/21(Mon) 20:33] <i_orzccc> おかえり。
[2008/04/21(Mon) 20:40] <TERRAZI> どうだい、調子は。
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[2008/04/21(Mon) 23:30] <itochan_da> はろー
[2008/04/21(Mon) 23:35] <Oberon> hi, looks like you feel better today
[2008/04/21(Mon) 23:36] <itochan_da> a bit
[2008/04/21(Mon) 23:37] <Oberon> better than nothing, right?
[2008/04/21(Mon) 23:38] <itochan_da> a bit better
[2008/04/21(Mon) 23:39] <Oberon> you know, that email providers list you gave me yesterday, it covered most, but not all )
[2008/04/21(Mon) 23:40] <itochan_da> did you find somewhere good ?
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[2008/04/21(Mon) 23:41] <Oberon> i spent half of night in search
[2008/04/21(Mon) 23:42] <Oberon> i tried auone.jp but registration there fails on last step
[2008/04/21(Mon) 23:42] <Oberon> i also tried canmail.jp
[2008/04/21(Mon) 23:43] <Oberon> i registered there and even was able to login. for the first time. but not later (wrong password
[2008/04/21(Mon) 23:44] <itochan_da> ? 
[2008/04/21(Mon) 23:45] <Oberon> then i begun to turn upside down google.jp
[2008/04/21(Mon) 23:45] <Oberon> i found some interesting places
[2008/04/21(Mon) 23:46] <Oberon> like spaceworld.co.jp (just liked design
[2008/04/21(Mon) 23:46] <itochan_da> ( whats wrong with canmail -- wrong password
[2008/04/21(Mon) 23:47] <Oberon> inter7 (omoshiroi PR )
[2008/04/21(Mon) 23:47] <Oberon> forget about canmail
[2008/04/21(Mon) 23:48] <Oberon> pair of sites with kids-mail
[2008/04/21(Mon) 23:48] <Oberon> kneesocks.jp
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[2008/04/21(Mon) 23:48] <Oberon> and even gaymail.jp
[2008/04/21(Mon) 23:48] <itochan_da> www
[2008/04/21(Mon) 23:48] <itochan_da> LOL
[2008/04/21(Mon) 23:49] <Oberon> (very aoi site indeed
[2008/04/21(Mon) 23:49] <itochan_da> aoi?
[2008/04/21(Mon) 23:49] <Oberon> blue color
[2008/04/21(Mon) 23:50] <Oberon> finally, frustrated, i decided to try kneesocks.jp
[2008/04/21(Mon) 23:51] <itochan_da> really?
[2008/04/21(Mon) 23:51] <Oberon> and, when i thought about account name this happened
[2008/04/21(Mon) 23:52] <itochan_da> I forgot that google allow someone to resell its "g appli" service
[2008/04/21(Mon) 23:53] <Oberon> you know, we, men, are all obsessed perverts and think not by that big head which is on top of our bodies, but by that small one which is in our pants
[2008/04/21(Mon) 23:54] <itochan_da> I DONT KNOW
[2008/04/21(Mon) 23:55] <Oberon> so my small head woked up, and in result my new account now looks like this: iliketoseewhatisaboveyour@kneesocks.jp
[2008/04/21(Mon) 23:55] <Oberon> :D
[2008/04/21(Mon) 23:56] <itochan_da> :/
[2008/04/21(Mon) 23:56] <Oberon> would you like to get mail from such acoount, itochan? )
[2008/04/21(Mon) 23:57] <itochan_da> of cource NO
[2008/04/21(Mon) 23:58] <Oberon> i doubt, those guys at GMail ever thought about such use of their domain name ))
[2008/04/21(Mon) 23:58] <Oberon> but i was not able to stop at that moment )
[2008/04/21(Mon) 23:59] <Oberon> hey, what the matter?
Session Time: Tue Apr 22 00:00:00 2008
[2008/04/22(Tue) 00:00] <Oberon> it was _your_ wish to me treat you like a man
[2008/04/22(Tue) 00:01] <Oberon> so i did, because of respect to that your wish
[2008/04/22(Tue) 00:02] <Oberon> but its for me to continue that way if you _dont react_ like man
[2008/04/22(Tue) 00:02] <Oberon> but its hard*
[2008/04/22(Tue) 00:04] <Oberon> ?
[2008/04/22(Tue) 00:05] <itochan_da> has send test mail to iliketoseewhatisaboveyour@kneesocks.jp
[2008/04/22(Tue) 00:05] <itochan_da>  have *
[2008/04/22(Tue) 00:09] <itochan_da> !
[2008/04/22(Tue) 00:10] <itochan_da> Opera rulez
[2008/04/22(Tue) 00:10] <Oberon> hontou desu
[2008/04/22(Tue) 00:10] <itochan_da> 恐ろしい
[2008/04/22(Tue) 00:11] <Oberon> o yeah, now i am <censored> and perverted maniac-pedophile
[2008/04/22(Tue) 00:11] * Oberon was kicked by ChanServ (KICK by JapanBot (Be careful of your words!))
[2008/04/22(Tue) 00:12] * Joins: Oberon
[2008/04/22(Tue) 00:12] <Oberon> look like time to begin swear in japanese comes
[2008/04/22(Tue) 00:13] <Oberon> tho i have to learn some words first
[2008/04/22(Tue) 00:14] <itochan_da> anyway, I never make my account at a site which has no privacy-policy
[2008/04/22(Tue) 00:15] <itochan_da> kneesocks.jp is one of such sites
[2008/04/22(Tue) 00:15] <Oberon> the main purpose of creating such account was to show off in front of friends
[2008/04/22(Tue) 00:16] <Oberon> but 6 gig of storage will go too
[2008/04/22(Tue) 00:16] <itochan_da> LOL
[2008/04/22(Tue) 00:16] <itochan_da> too much
[2008/04/22(Tue) 00:17] <Oberon> so, shall i continue to treat you like man?
[2008/04/22(Tue) 00:17] <itochan_da> no, I won't send any email to such mail address
[2008/04/22(Tue) 00:18] <Oberon> no one can or will force you to do so
[2008/04/22(Tue) 00:19] <itochan_da> I force me
[2008/04/22(Tue) 00:19] <Oberon> we all fight with ourselves
[2008/04/22(Tue) 00:20] <Oberon> and you know, you cannot win _always_
[2008/04/22(Tue) 00:20] <Oberon> this will be just cheating
[2008/04/22(Tue) 00:21] <itochan_da> No. I lost always :|
[2008/04/22(Tue) 00:21] <itochan_da> I send one letter to such mail address, you know LOL
[2008/04/22(Tue) 00:22] <Oberon> whats wrong with you? you didnt got raped after this
[2008/04/22(Tue) 00:24] <Oberon> you havent explored that famous porn-part of internet thoroughly
[2008/04/22(Tue) 00:25] <Oberon> or else you would know about existence of way more worst things
[2008/04/22(Tue) 00:26] <itochan_da> I don't want to do such Interenet Explore -ing
[2008/04/22(Tue) 00:27] <Oberon> i used it as example for comparison of mine and your mean of "worst"
[2008/04/22(Tue) 00:28] <Oberon> btw, here goes rain
[2008/04/22(Tue) 00:29] <itochan_da> it is still 晴れ … えーっと…
[2008/04/22(Tue) 00:29] <itochan_da> it is still fine wether here
[2008/04/22(Tue) 00:29] <itochan_da> fine weather
[2008/04/22(Tue) 00:30] <Oberon> did you go to job today?
[2008/04/22(Tue) 00:31] <itochan_da> rather, I explore to find filtering technologies ; anti-porn
[2008/04/22(Tue) 00:32] <itochan_da> or anti-spam (mainly)
[2008/04/22(Tue) 00:32] <itochan_da> technology rules
[2008/04/22(Tue) 00:33] <itochan_da> I went
[2008/04/22(Tue) 00:33] <Oberon> you need only 2 things to success: firewall and thinking head on your shoulders
[2008/04/22(Tue) 00:34] <Oberon> i have anti-ADS and anti-porn rules in my firewall and i dont forget to update them from time to time
[2008/04/22(Tue) 00:35] * i_orzccc is now known as i_meal
[2008/04/22(Tue) 00:35] <itochan_da> which product are you using?
[2008/04/22(Tue) 00:37] <Oberon> generally its wrong idea to tell ppl what kind of software you use
[2008/04/22(Tue) 00:37] <itochan_da> :D
[2008/04/22(Tue) 00:37] <Oberon> but dont worry
[2008/04/22(Tue) 00:38] <Oberon> those rules are not exportable
[2008/04/22(Tue) 00:38] <Oberon> they were acumulated for a long time
[2008/04/22(Tue) 00:39] <Oberon> and they are oriented on western part of internet
[2008/04/22(Tue) 00:40] <Oberon> tho recent additions have something related to japanese part of internet, its not much
[2008/04/22(Tue) 00:41] <itochan_da> (what recent addition...
[2008/04/22(Tue) 00:42] <Oberon> click.linksynergy.com and ad.linksynergy.com
[2008/04/22(Tue) 00:42] <itochan_da> I know some western anti-spam product has a rule; all mail written in Japanese encode is spam
[2008/04/22(Tue) 00:44] <Oberon> i dont use any anti-spam software. i prefer to not show off with valuable adresses
[2008/04/22(Tue) 00:44] <itochan_da> is there ”rakuten” in your block list?
[2008/04/22(Tue) 00:44] <Oberon> eh? some sort of book/dvd shop?
[2008/04/22(Tue) 00:46] <Oberon> i barely can remember places i visit last night
[2008/04/22(Tue) 00:46] <Oberon> there was a lot of them
[2008/04/22(Tue) 00:47] <Oberon> there was some rakuten, but i cant remember what i seen there
[2008/04/22(Tue) 00:47] <itochan_da> everything http://affiliate.rakuten.co.jp/
[2008/04/22(Tue) 00:47] -CzBot:#japanese- 【楽天アフィリエイト】日本最大級のアフィリエイトプログラム... [text/html; charset=EUC-JP]
[2008/04/22(Tue) 00:48] <itochan_da> e mall
[2008/04/22(Tue) 00:48] <itochan_da> http://www.rakuten.co.jp/
[2008/04/22(Tue) 00:48] -CzBot:#japanese-  【楽天市場】Shopping is Entertainment! ： インターネット最大級の通信販売、通販オンラインシ... [text/html; charset=EUC-JP]
[2008/04/22(Tue) 00:49] <Oberon> design looks like i've seen it somewhere
[2008/04/22(Tue) 00:49] <itochan_da> www. is e-mall, affiliate. is PPA ad
[2008/04/22(Tue) 00:50] <Oberon> then block it (affiliate.rakuten.co.jp) in your firewall
[2008/04/22(Tue) 00:51] <Oberon> (if you plan to never use this site
[2008/04/22(Tue) 00:51] <Oberon> some weird made sites may stop to work
[2008/04/22(Tue) 00:52] <Oberon> but you always can find more and better places
[2008/04/22(Tue) 00:52] <Oberon> internet is endless
[2008/04/22(Tue) 00:55] <itochan_da> by the way, do you know any anti-spam or anti-scam sites?
[2008/04/22(Tue) 00:56] <Oberon> no. i dont use anti-spam software of any kind  (including online ones
[2008/04/22(Tue) 00:58] <Oberon> but even i am, who dont send/receive lots of email, get a pair of spam letters every week
[2008/04/22(Tue) 00:59] <Oberon> so there is no universal and absolute cure
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:02] <itochan_da> I get more than 50 spam per day, so ...
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:02] <Oberon> omfg
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:02] <itochan_da> but ...
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:02] <Oberon> where you get them? )
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:02] <itochan_da> ah, at yahoo.co.jp ; you know :)
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:03] <itochan_da> in my *@yahoo.co.jp mail box, I get more than 50 spam per day, and
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:04] <itochan_da> I don't want to change my mail address,
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:04] <Oberon> you may think about to unite with me under the roof of kneesocks.jp ;)
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:04] <itochan_da> no no no
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:04] <Oberon> ehh
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:05] <Oberon> its the same google
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:05] <Oberon> just under other name
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:06] <itochan_da> yahoo / google have spam filter ;  and it is same I have to check my spam box not to lost important mail every day.
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:07] <Oberon> the box which got into spammers send-lists is doomed
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:08] <Oberon> the only way to solve problem is tokill the box and get new one
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:08] <Oberon> to kill*
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:09] <Oberon> say big "thanks
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:10] <Oberon> say big "thanks" to active web content, to which all you are so happy
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:10] <itochan_da> I know that but I dont want to run away to another mail provider
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:12] <Oberon> ehm... you know, mailbox is not a tamagochi. nothing happens when it dies
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:14] <Oberon> in some, very limited, way it may be called "alive", but even in this case, all that lives - dies
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:15] <Oberon> sooner or later
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:16] <Oberon> and i know, that japanese dont like to loose very much
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:17] <Oberon> but your fight... ehm... dont know what to say
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:18] <Oberon> you have to become IT-pro to fight them
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:19] <itochan_da> when I change my e-mail address, I should change contact e-mail address at many sites I registered.
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:19] <Oberon> why???
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:19] <itochan_da> for example, my.opera.com,
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:20] <Oberon> afaic, registration email never used in usual, everyday site's use
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:21] <Oberon> afaik*
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:22] <itochan_da> * same. I can not understand both afaic and afaik
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:22] <Oberon> afaik = As Far As I Know
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:23] <Oberon> very ergonomic, ne?
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:23] <itochan_da> if I forget changing contact at some important sites,  and time goes, 
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:24] <Oberon> dont tell me that you loose all passwords every month or two
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:24] <itochan_da> I meet some problem which I cannot solve at that time
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:25] <itochan_da> yeah, password reminder is one of such things
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:26] <Oberon> i suspect that those your problems are specific to japanese sites, because of their design, which relies heavily on email
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:27] <Oberon> but unless you tell me more, i cant suggest anything of use
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:28] <Oberon> and to be honest, i barely can imagine internet from your point of view
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:29] <Oberon> (my rule - no active content
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:30] <itochan_da> in my case, I regestered many phpBB type forums years ago...
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:31] <itochan_da> it is not ok for me to ignore any contact from those sites 
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:31] <Oberon> forums dont use your email, except for registration. but online meeting services may do so
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:32] <itochan_da> (and I didn't get any mails from those sites
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:32] * i_meal is now known as i_orzccc
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:34] <Oberon> but you always can tell to your friends your new email
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:34] <itochan_da> I checked those forums I registered a few week ago,
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:34] <itochan_da> many sites/forums closed
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:34] <itochan_da> !!!
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:35] <Oberon> and how this "closed" does look like?
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:36] <Oberon> do they say to you "we are closed" or what?
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:36] <itochan_da> one of "closed" site http://azbb.org/
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:36] -CzBot:#japanese-  Azbb.org  [text/html; charset=UTF-8]
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:36] <Oberon> heh
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:36] <itochan_da> （ah, closed .. is japanese english?
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:37] <Oberon> doesnt look like
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:37] <itochan_da> (be closed ?
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:37] <Oberon> hihi
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:38] <Oberon> Домен azbb.org выставлен на продажу!
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:38] <Oberon> russian cybersquatters on fire )))
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:39] <Oberon> the board just moved on different domain name, because someone didnt paid in time
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:39] <itochan_da> sedo sells this domain
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:39] <itochan_da> now.
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:41] <Oberon> you have to visit places you registered in more often, or make their amount smaller so you can chech them all in time
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:42] <Oberon> i bet, before moving/clothing those guys running board posted some warning
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:42] <Oberon> closeing*
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:42] <itochan_da> closing*
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:42] * Joins: saitos2
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:42] <Oberon> gomen
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:43] <saitos2> こんばんは
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:43] <Oberon> konbanha, saitosan
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:43] <itochan_da> こんばんは
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:43] <saitos2> こんばんは、Oberon and いとちゃん
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:44] <saitos2> Oberon, I was surprized to see this article;
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:44] <saitos2> http://overclockers.ru/softnews/28928.shtml
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[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:45] <itochan_da> 変な質問ですが、saitos2さんて、いつものsaitosさんですか？
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:45] <saitos2> そうです
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:45] <itochan_da> saitonさんですか？
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:45] <saitos2> はい
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:45] <Oberon> good site about overclocking
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:45] <itochan_da> そうなんだ…
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:45] <itochan_da> （どっかでみたぞ、このURL
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:45] <saitos2> なんで、いとちゃん
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:45] <saitos2> あはは
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:46] <saitos2> Google翻訳で英語にして読んだ
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:46] <itochan_da> （saitos2 さんを whoisしてみました
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:46] <saitos2> そうなんだって、なにか
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:46] <itochan_da> （そしたら、 T saito に見えた
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:46] <saitos2> tcatですよ
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:47] <saitos2> フルネームをあかしてますよ
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:47] <itochan_da> （ n とか s って何だろうと…ｗｗｗ
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:47] <saitos2> ああ
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:48] <itochan_da> Too many Opera users in Russia
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:48] <saitos2> nとかsは、ギリシア人の名前がnやsで終るのが多いのにならっただけ
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:48] <Oberon> russian advanced users dont like IE
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:48] <saitos2> onとかosで終る
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:48] <saitos2> 男性の場合
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:48] <saitos2> esとかもあるけど
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:49] <itochan_da> （今「それは男性？」って聞こうとしたのに…
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:49] <saitos2> 女性はaとかeで終るのが多いかな
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:49] <saitos2> PandoraとかHeleneとか
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:50] <itochan_da> what is DRUGIE in first chart? > Oberon:
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:50] <Oberon> others
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:50] <itochan_da> thanks
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:50] <saitos2> we can guess
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:51] <itochan_da> :|
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:51] <Oberon> like "netfront" for mobile devices
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:51] <saitos2> at least, not Safari :)
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:52] <saitos2> i use netfront with my cell phone :(
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:52] <Oberon> never tried it. no reason. opera is enough
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:52] <Oberon> (safari
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:52] <itochan_da> is there OS data ?
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:53] <itochan_da> そもそもWindowsユーザーが少ないなら、IEの比率は減るはずです。
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:53] <saitos2> ああ、それもあるか
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:53] <itochan_da> 特にOverclockersだし
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:53] <Oberon> maybe, if to dig all their archives
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:54] <Oberon> but they're _big_
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:54] <saitos2> Russian like Linux?
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:54] <Oberon> hmm... hard to say
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:55] <itochan_da> does Russian Geeks like Linux?
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:55] <saitos2> someday i like to get russian camera
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:55] <itochan_da> （doesじゃないじゃん…doじゃん…orz
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:55] <Oberon> all PC geeks like linux )
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:56] <itochan_da> ほら＞さいとうさん
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:56] <Oberon> saitos2 you mean that one which uses film
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:56] <saitos2> yes
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:56] <saitos2> like these
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:56] <saitos2> http://camera.web.infoseek.co.jp/
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:56] -CzBot:#japanese- カメラ販売のソ連カメラ店スプートニク-クレジットカードもつかえます... [text/html]
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:57] <saitos2> i want this one
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:57] <saitos2> http://camera.web.infoseek.co.jp/FED-5C.htm
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:57] -CzBot:#japanese- カメラ販売のソ連カメラ店スプートニク-クレジットカードもつかえます... [text/html]
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:57] <Oberon> i barely can remember. only names. "Zenit". "Lomo"
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:58] <itochan_da> それだ。　LOMO
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:58] <itochan_da> それ人気あるはず。理由は知りません
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:58] <saitos2> Lomo, famous japanese copy
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:58] <Oberon> oh man, that link is real old one
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:59] <saitos2> Lomo is expensive here
[2008/04/22(Tue) 01:59] <Oberon> hmm... USSR also "copied" american computers )
[2008/04/22(Tue) 02:00] <saitos2> hahaha
[2008/04/22(Tue) 02:00] <saitos2> original japanese camera is;
[2008/04/22(Tue) 02:00] <saitos2> http://fine.tok2.com/home/mountmagic/camera/compact_camera/cx2/cx2.html
[2008/04/22(Tue) 02:00] -CzBot:#japanese- Cosin CX-2 Motor [text/html]
[2008/04/22(Tue) 02:01] <Oberon> saitos2 even if i would like to get into such business, such things are really hard to find and im not expert, so sorry
[2008/04/22(Tue) 02:02] <saitos2> no worries. i don't ask you to find :)
[2008/04/22(Tue) 02:02] <Oberon> more to say, that one on link you gave is restaurated
[2008/04/22(Tue) 02:02] <saitos2> we can buy that, though it's expensive.
[2008/04/22(Tue) 02:02] <saitos2> maybe
[2008/04/22(Tue) 02:03] <saitos2> in Shinjyuku or Shibuya in Tokyo, we can find those camera.
[2008/04/22(Tue) 02:03] <Oberon> i got your thought, but i live not in moscow
[2008/04/22(Tue) 02:04] <Oberon> i live in village
[2008/04/22(Tue) 02:04] <saitos2> so it's hard to find film camera in ur country by now?
[2008/04/22(Tue) 02:04] <Oberon> tho its proudly called "city"
[2008/04/22(Tue) 02:05] <Oberon> only on geek's hands
[2008/04/22(Tue) 02:05] <saitos2> i see. same as in japan.
[2008/04/22(Tue) 02:05] <Oberon> sorry
[2008/04/22(Tue) 02:06] <saitos2> i have small instant camera,,, but no instant file for now!
[2008/04/22(Tue) 02:07] <saitos2> old Polaroid
[2008/04/22(Tue) 02:07] <Oberon> etto... i am nOOb in photography
[2008/04/22(Tue) 02:08] <saitos2> heard of AGFA?
[2008/04/22(Tue) 02:08] <Oberon> they do lenses?
[2008/04/22(Tue) 02:09] <itochan_da> film maker?
[2008/04/22(Tue) 02:09] <saitos2> Opera Japan is located in the same building of AGFA, film and lense company of Belgium
[2008/04/22(Tue) 02:10] * Oberon knows only magnetic media makers
[2008/04/22(Tue) 02:10] <Oberon> so i wasnt totally wrong, at least )
[2008/04/22(Tue) 02:10] <saitos2> http://www.agfa.com/japan/
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[2008/04/22(Tue) 02:14] <saitos2> it's too late, so i will go to bed...
[2008/04/22(Tue) 02:14] <itochan_da> 思い出しました
[2008/04/22(Tue) 02:14] <saitos2> なに？
[2008/04/22(Tue) 02:14] <itochan_da> I am now remember http://jmail.co.jp/
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[2008/04/22(Tue) 02:15] <itochan_da> free email with .co.jp
[2008/04/22(Tue) 02:15] <Oberon> of Wacky who?
[2008/04/22(Tue) 02:15] <itochan_da> too late?>Oberon:
[2008/04/22(Tue) 02:15] <Oberon> i stopped there: http://www.agfa.com/en/sp/products_services/prod_cat/index.jsp
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[2008/04/22(Tue) 02:15] <Oberon> itochan yes )
[2008/04/22(Tue) 02:16] <itochan_da> まあ、前の社長が逃亡したり、いろいろあった会社なんだけどね。
[2008/04/22(Tue) 02:16] <Oberon> i am dumb like thrump
[2008/04/22(Tue) 02:16] <itochan_da> ミス：逃亡というより失踪
[2008/04/22(Tue) 02:16] <Oberon> those names on agfa site tell me nothing
[2008/04/22(Tue) 02:17] <itochan_da> （あれ？有料化してる…
[2008/04/22(Tue) 02:18] <saitos2> 3600yens
[2008/04/22(Tue) 02:19] <itochan_da> 前は無料だったのに。
[2008/04/22(Tue) 02:19] <itochan_da> forget it.
[2008/04/22(Tue) 02:20] <saitos2> it's 2 am
[2008/04/22(Tue) 02:20] <saitos2> ねるう
[2008/04/22(Tue) 02:20] <saitos2> bye for now
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[2008/04/22(Tue) 02:21] <Oberon> osoi
[2008/04/22(Tue) 02:22] <Oberon> well, i have to go too. as usual, i havent sleep last night
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[2008/04/22(Tue) 02:24] <itochan_da> ok
[2008/04/22(Tue) 02:24] <itochan_da> good night
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[2008/04/22(Tue) 19:22] <itochan_da> 一瞬だけこんばんは
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[2008/04/22(Tue) 21:11] <itochan_da> こんばんは
[2008/04/22(Tue) 21:13] <itochan_da> いませんね？　いません。
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[2008/04/22(Tue) 22:20] <Rei> hi
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[2008/04/22(Tue) 22:40] <itochan_da> こん
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[2008/04/22(Tue) 22:54] <itochan_da> 誰かいませんか？
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[2008/04/22(Tue) 23:06] <Oberon> いますよう
[2008/04/22(Tue) 23:07] <Oberon> just now returned home
[2008/04/22(Tue) 23:07] <itochan_da> おかえりなさい
[2008/04/22(Tue) 23:11] <Oberon> now i have 12ogig usb flash drive
[2008/04/22(Tue) 23:12] <itochan_da> 120 Giga?!
[2008/04/22(Tue) 23:12] <Oberon> yeah
[2008/04/22(Tue) 23:13] <itochan_da> too big
[2008/04/22(Tue) 23:14] <Oberon> some days ago man brought notebook with quite used hdd and decided to change it for new one, so hdd i got for free
[2008/04/22(Tue) 23:15] <Oberon> + cheap chinese mobile case
[2008/04/22(Tue) 23:18] <Oberon> i'd prefer 500g, but at present time there is no such things, so i am happy to 120 )
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[2008/04/22(Tue) 23:20] <itochan_da> flash drive?
[2008/04/22(Tue) 23:22] <itochan_da> btw, I am searching another Avatar image. do you know any good one? (completely free product)
[2008/04/22(Tue) 23:25] <Oberon> whenever i get registered on a site or forum, the first thing i do is going to user preferences page and turn displaying of avatars and signs off
[2008/04/22(Tue) 23:26] <itochan_da> ^_^
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[2008/04/23(Wed) 00:54] -JapanBot- ただいま ^_^
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[2008/04/23(Wed) 00:54] <Oberon> but i bet, now its all in old places as it were before my post
[2008/04/23(Wed) 00:56] <Oberon> someone just dont understand that huge power behind trackers
[2008/04/23(Wed) 00:57] <itochan_da> probably they know that, but they don't agree that
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[2008/04/23(Wed) 00:59] <saitos> 寒くなってきた夜中だ
[2008/04/23(Wed) 00:59] <Oberon> then let they close, disband and die
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[2008/04/23(Wed) 01:01] <itochan_da> あれ？＞saitos
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[2008/04/23(Wed) 01:44] <Oberon> and silence covered the battlefield...
[2008/04/23(Wed) 01:46] <Oberon> only bodes left, looking in the sky with their empty eyes...
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[2008/04/23(Wed) 04:13] <dreamcatcher> hi to everybody
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[2008/04/23(Wed) 04:33] -JapanBot- ただいま ^_^
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[2008/04/23(Wed) 23:29] <Oberon> kisragi needed again, i see
[2008/04/23(Wed) 23:29] <Oberon> a*
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[2008/04/23(Wed) 23:49] <itochan_da> こんばんは
[2008/04/23(Wed) 23:50] <Oberon> こんばんは
[2008/04/23(Wed) 23:56] <Oberon> itochan
[2008/04/23(Wed) 23:57] <itochan_da> nani
[2008/04/23(Wed) 23:57] <Oberon> how do you pay for your internet?
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[2008/04/24(Thu) 00:02] <itochan_da> monthly fee
[2008/04/24(Thu) 00:02] <Oberon> of course
[2008/04/24(Thu) 00:03] <itochan_da> you can see I am now j-net.jp > itochan_da のWhois情報: itochan_da@118-86-207-155.fnnr.j-cnet.jp (itochan)
[2008/04/24(Thu) 00:03] <Oberon> my isp no more accept credit cards as payment
[2008/04/24(Thu) 00:03] <itochan_da> j-cnet.jp, a cable-internet provider
[2008/04/24(Thu) 00:03] <Oberon> shitty bastards
[2008/04/24(Thu) 00:04] <itochan_da> whats happened?
[2008/04/24(Thu) 00:04] <Oberon> that was endeed very easy and convenient way to pay
[2008/04/24(Thu) 00:04] <Oberon> indeed*
[2008/04/24(Thu) 00:05] <Oberon> i think just not enough ppl
[2008/04/24(Thu) 00:05] <itochan_da> ( anyway jcnet don't accept credit card, too ; I pay it by postal-bank account
[2008/04/24(Thu) 00:05] <itochan_da> ゆうちょ銀行 …英語で何だろう
[2008/04/24(Thu) 00:07] <itochan_da> they don't accept my usual bank account, too ; so I have to go and add some money into my postal-bank account 
[2008/04/24(Thu) 00:08] <Oberon> now i have only 2 options: to come in their office every month with their "subscriber book" they gave me, or damn it, _again_ come to their office to buy some sort of single use cards they have emitted
[2008/04/24(Thu) 00:09] <itochan_da> prepaid card?
[2008/04/24(Thu) 00:09] <Oberon> yes
[2008/04/24(Thu) 00:10] <Oberon> and both those options look weird for me
[2008/04/24(Thu) 00:10] <itochan_da> why ? what let it so?
[2008/04/24(Thu) 00:11] <itochan_da> what make the company so? ( ? )
[2008/04/24(Thu) 00:11] <itochan_da> （英文になってないかも
[2008/04/24(Thu) 00:13] <Oberon> because now the bridge over the river is closed for 2-3 years on fepair and their office is on the other side of that damn river
[2008/04/24(Thu) 00:13] <Oberon> repair*
[2008/04/24(Thu) 00:14] <Oberon> and reroute is quite far
[2008/04/24(Thu) 00:14] <itochan_da> hmmm
[2008/04/24(Thu) 00:16] <Oberon> oh, i remembered. "detour" is more suitable word
[2008/04/24(Thu) 00:16] <itochan_da> which cable will not be used, credit card or internet ^_^
[2008/04/24(Thu) 00:20] <itochan_da> ( ah, not postal-bank but "postal savings" < 郵便貯金（ゆうちょ）
[2008/04/24(Thu) 00:21] <Oberon> is it some special account to pay only for one particular thing?
[2008/04/24(Thu) 00:22] <itochan_da> is there something like webmoney  ?
[2008/04/24(Thu) 00:22] <Oberon> hah, they're not enough smart to do this )
[2008/04/24(Thu) 00:22] <itochan_da> ^_^;
[2008/04/24(Thu) 00:24] <itochan_da> I am afraid I don't have any idea
[2008/04/24(Thu) 00:24] <itochan_da> we Japanese have many "smart" payment ways now
[2008/04/24(Thu) 00:25] <Oberon> lucky ones
[2008/04/24(Thu) 00:25] <itochan_da> but in Russia ?
[2008/04/24(Thu) 00:26] <Oberon> in russia everything work just perfectly. but only in moscow )
[2008/04/24(Thu) 00:28] <Oberon> well, maybe some more really big cities with pop. over 3mil.
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[2008/04/24(Thu) 00:29] <saitos2> なんでこんな時にjp.opera落ちてるんだよ
[2008/04/24(Thu) 00:30] <saitos2> 一時的だと良いんだが
[2008/04/24(Thu) 00:30] <itochan_da> こんばんは
[2008/04/24(Thu) 00:31] <itochan_da> 「こんな時」っていうのはどういう時？
[2008/04/24(Thu) 00:31] <Oberon> opera.jp
[2008/04/24(Thu) 00:31] <Oberon> このドメインは、お名前.comで登録されています。
[2008/04/24(Thu) 00:31] <itochan_da> あははｗ
[2008/04/24(Thu) 00:32] <itochan_da> （GMOムカツク
[2008/04/24(Thu) 00:33] <saitos2> itochan
[2008/04/24(Thu) 00:33] <saitos2> 聞くな！
[2008/04/24(Thu) 00:34] <saitos2> 日本語で考えるんだ
[2008/04/24(Thu) 00:34] <itochan_da> [登録者名] 有限会社東洋療法研究所
[2008/04/24(Thu) 00:34] <itochan_da> [Registrant] Toyo Ryoho Kenkyujyo Corporation
[2008/04/24(Thu) 00:34] <saitos2> うん、そうだよ
[2008/04/24(Thu) 00:35] <itochan_da> まあ、アダルトサイト運営よりは、GMOの広告の方がマシだと考えておこう…
[2008/04/24(Thu) 00:36] <saitos2> のみすぎた
[2008/04/24(Thu) 00:36] <saitos2> うまいワインを開けてしまったのでついつい
[2008/04/24(Thu) 00:37] <saitos2> あ、つながった
[2008/04/24(Thu) 00:45] <Oberon> 11 kanji in a row, omfg
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[2008/04/24(Thu) 00:49] <saitos2> つかれた
[2008/04/24(Thu) 00:49] <saitos2> いとちゃん、、
[2008/04/24(Thu) 00:50] <saitos2> また字幕付けない？
[2008/04/24(Thu) 00:51] <saitos2> ありゃ、、この動画はユーザーにより削除されました。
[2008/04/24(Thu) 00:51] <itochan_da> あ、いいですよ？
[2008/04/24(Thu) 00:52] <itochan_da> 字幕.inでつけたんだっけ
[2008/04/24(Thu) 00:52] <saitos2> というか
[2008/04/24(Thu) 00:52] <saitos2> さっきまであったのに
[2008/04/24(Thu) 00:52] <itochan_da> （こないだの、編集パスワード忘れた…まあいっかｗ
[2008/04/24(Thu) 00:52] <saitos2> さくじょされてた
[2008/04/24(Thu) 00:53] <itochan_da> なんだっけ、 Operaの履歴からflvファイルを拾い出す方法とか最近見た気がｗ
[2008/04/24(Thu) 00:53] <saitos2> そんなかわいそうなことすんな
[2008/04/24(Thu) 00:54] <saitos2> http://twitter.com/opera
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[2008/04/24(Thu) 00:55] <itochan_da> ははぁん
[2008/04/24(Thu) 00:57] <itochan_da> 普通に歌うたってるだけ？＜rockwithopera
[2008/04/24(Thu) 00:57] <saitos2> いや、さくじょされてしまったどうが
[2008/04/24(Thu) 00:58] <saitos2> けさから、さっきまであったのに
[2008/04/24(Thu) 01:02] <saitos2> おやすみなさい。さようなら
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[2008/04/24(Thu) 01:04] <itochan_da> おつです
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[2008/04/24(Thu) 13:52] <break> hi to all
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[2008/04/24(Thu) 21:56] <saitos2> こんばんは
[2008/04/24(Thu) 21:57] <saitos2> beta2出たんだが
[2008/04/24(Thu) 21:57] <i_orzccc> 人柱の貢献待ち
[2008/04/24(Thu) 21:57] <i_orzccc> 宣伝だけはしておくか
[2008/04/24(Thu) 21:58] <saitos2> weeklyから比べれば、大分マシかも
[2008/04/24(Thu) 21:59] <saitos2> 昨日消されてしまったkestrelのYouTube動画は良かったのになあ
[2008/04/24(Thu) 21:59] <Kuruma> けされたんか
[2008/04/24(Thu) 21:59] <Kuruma> それはたしか＞ここ最近のうぃーくりーよりまし
[2008/04/24(Thu) 21:59] <saitos2> 投稿者によって削除されましたと
[2008/04/24(Thu) 22:00] <saitos2> それで、うちのはてなのエン取りも消した
[2008/04/24(Thu) 22:00] <saitos2> http://jp.youtube.com/index?&session=Wk0q4YY3l2Fvp9RLF9bqSjsVxwhMhZcLR0xXz8_SbNaSEB8L1prtWdvU1scAChXRbuTu4DzNH4-kum7sKLkB04nG-weXgT_0kX23JnofBLZLr9U6Y0hRP88gw6M2-9Ww_cVlV9V_l_ncaJqnxQgU4nHvn6HO9yXd9NTaDUgy9x0tnimXB49apGy-nbTa8ED8ts_rGC7QN2uLR3du-CaX4n2FL5uQwDeSdtQVqVpTiJp6QRcEI0i94cq9l8zWERvsm9BQlSzL1R0Kb77fMmpYkK9S7i-pzs0U6PrZj0mdwlc=
[2008/04/24(Thu) 22:00] -CzBot:#japanese- YouTube - Broadcast Yourself [text/html; charset=utf-8]
[2008/04/24(Thu) 22:01] <i_orzccc> ほほうそれは朗報＜Weekly よりまし
[2008/04/24(Thu) 22:01] <saitos2> ええ
[2008/04/24(Thu) 22:02] <saitos2> というか i_orzcccはinter-weekly入れてる？
[2008/04/24(Thu) 22:02] <i_orzccc> なんぞそれ
[2008/04/24(Thu) 22:02] <saitos2> 今作った言葉だけど
[2008/04/24(Thu) 22:02] <saitos2> internal build
[2008/04/24(Thu) 22:03] <i_orzccc> 非公開のか。んや、くるまんにもいわれたおぼえがあるな
[2008/04/24(Thu) 22:03] <i_orzccc> 半分自慢のように。
[2008/04/24(Thu) 22:04] <i_orzccc> 「ああそっちチームは使ってないのか（ふふん」みたいなｗ
[2008/04/24(Thu) 22:04] <i_orzccc> いらっとした！
[2008/04/24(Thu) 22:04] <saitos2> いれりゃあいい
[2008/04/24(Thu) 22:04] <saitos2> というか
[2008/04/24(Thu) 22:04] <saitos2> 日本語環境でテストする人、少ないから、是非
[2008/04/24(Thu) 22:04] <Kuruma> そう感じたのなら謝る。
[2008/04/24(Thu) 22:05] <i_orzccc> いや冗談だがｗ
[2008/04/24(Thu) 22:05] <i_orzccc> 日本語環境なぁ
[2008/04/24(Thu) 22:05] <saitos2> プロのQAによるレポートとなると、、
[2008/04/24(Thu) 22:05] <i_orzccc> ちうか俺は家にゃ安定版しかいれんからなぁ
[2008/04/24(Thu) 22:06] <saitos2> 身を削ってくれ
[2008/04/24(Thu) 22:06] <i_orzccc> 仕事の効率を削るわけにはいかんのでねぇ
[2008/04/24(Thu) 22:06] <saitos2> 会社のに入れても尚可
[2008/04/24(Thu) 22:06] <i_orzccc> 常にブラウザ使った仕事してるし。
[2008/04/24(Thu) 22:07] <i_orzccc> まぁそっちですね。
[2008/04/24(Thu) 22:07] <i_orzccc> やるとしても。
[2008/04/24(Thu) 22:07] <i_orzccc> USB 使わされてるからアレだけど。
[2008/04/24(Thu) 22:07] <saitos2> 起動しなけりゃ、それはそれでレポート上げて、戻せばいい
[2008/04/24(Thu) 22:07] <i_orzccc> 起動しないってどんだけｗ
[2008/04/24(Thu) 22:08] <saitos2> あっちで、いろいろ経験しているから、分かるでしょ
[2008/04/24(Thu) 22:09] <i_orzccc> まじでそんなレベルなのか
[2008/04/24(Thu) 22:10] <i_orzccc> あっちでそういうことが怒る原因はおぺらじゃないしなぁ
[2008/04/24(Thu) 22:10] <i_orzccc> まぁクリップボードにザオリクかけてくる
[2008/04/24(Thu) 22:10] <i_orzccc> 〜
[2008/04/24(Thu) 22:14] -i_orzccc:#japanese- _orzccc< 〜
[2008/04/24(Thu) 22:14] <i_orzccc> 直った直った
[2008/04/24(Thu) 22:27] <i_orzccc> b2入れた
[2008/04/24(Thu) 22:27] <saitos2> 入った？
[2008/04/24(Thu) 22:27] <i_orzccc> 入ってない
[2008/04/24(Thu) 22:28] <i_orzccc> プロセスおち切ってないから。
[2008/04/24(Thu) 22:28] <i_orzccc> おせえ
[2008/04/24(Thu) 22:28] <i_orzccc> 終了の遅さだけはたまらんな
[2008/04/24(Thu) 22:28] <i_orzccc> まぁタブ50個だとそんなもんか
[2008/04/24(Thu) 22:29] <saitos2> 22:27	i_orzccc	b2入れた＞？入れたんじゃないのか
[2008/04/24(Thu) 22:30] <i_orzccc> とおもったが入ってなかった
[2008/04/24(Thu) 22:30] <i_orzccc> よしはいった
[2008/04/24(Thu) 22:33] <i_orzccc> む
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[2008/04/24(Thu) 22:33] <i_orzccc> 確実に早くなってる
[2008/04/24(Thu) 22:34] <i_orzccc> なんだこれ
[2008/04/24(Thu) 22:34] <i_orzccc> すげーな
[2008/04/24(Thu) 22:34] <i_orzccc> 起動とセッション復元の速度がすごい
[2008/04/24(Thu) 22:34] <toni> is there anyone
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[2008/04/24(Thu) 22:35] <i_orzccc> speaking esperanto? sorry no one does
[2008/04/24(Thu) 22:35] <i_orzccc> orz
[2008/04/24(Thu) 22:35] <saitos2> 何との比較？
[2008/04/24(Thu) 22:35] <i_orzccc> おとといきやがれー
[2008/04/24(Thu) 22:36] <i_orzccc> 一ヶ月くらい前のウィークリー
[2008/04/24(Thu) 22:36] <saitos2> ああ、ならその後、ずいぶん改善しているはず
[2008/04/24(Thu) 22:37] <i_orzccc> それもその前のよりはかなり改善されてたけどね
[2008/04/24(Thu) 22:37] <i_orzccc> 定期的な再起動要らなくなったし。
[2008/04/24(Thu) 22:37] <i_orzccc> さーその辺はどうなってるかなー楽しみだ
[2008/04/24(Thu) 22:37] <saitos2> というか
[2008/04/24(Thu) 22:38] <saitos2> 社内の人なんだから、何か不具合があったらBug上げてよ
[2008/04/24(Thu) 22:38] <i_orzccc> 酷く気が重いなぁ
[2008/04/24(Thu) 22:39] <i_orzccc> どうしてかね。入社前ならそれができることでうきうきしていただろうに
[2008/04/24(Thu) 22:44] <i_orzccc> まぁひとまず宣伝しておいた http://twitter.com/orzccc/statuses/795935898
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[2008/04/24(Thu) 22:44] <i_orzccc> 体験と体感を間違えたのが心残り
[2008/04/24(Thu) 22:45] <saitos2> 600人近くに配信されたわけだ
[2008/04/24(Thu) 22:45] <i_orzccc> そうなりますね
[2008/04/24(Thu) 22:52] <Kuruma> というか
[2008/04/24(Thu) 22:52] <Kuruma> 古いウィークリーいれっぱなしだったんか。。
[2008/04/24(Thu) 22:54] <saitos2> weeklyの賞味期限は1週間だよ！
[2008/04/24(Thu) 22:57] <saitos2> i_orzccc http://interestic.com/news/2008/04/24/firefox/576.html
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[2008/04/24(Thu) 22:57] <saitos2> koreno
[2008/04/24(Thu) 22:57] <saitos2> これの元記事はhttp://savasplace.com/journal.php?sxEntryID=201
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[2008/04/24(Thu) 22:58] <saitos2> ですが
[2008/04/24(Thu) 22:58] <saitos2> IEの項目、あなたならどう訳しますか？
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[2008/04/24(Thu) 23:04] <i_orzccc> 贔屓目ぬきで
[2008/04/24(Thu) 23:05] <i_orzccc> Operaが一番いいな
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[2008/04/24(Thu) 23:26] <saitos2> 女性評論家の i_orzccc が言うのだから信用できそう
[2008/04/24(Thu) 23:26] <i_orzccc> てれるなぁ
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[2008/04/24(Thu) 23:34] <i_orzccc> うーんはやい
[2008/04/24(Thu) 23:34] <i_orzccc> Gmail が軽い
[2008/04/24(Thu) 23:34] <itochan_da> こんばんは
[2008/04/24(Thu) 23:34] <itochan_da> （一瞬だけ入りです…すぐ落ちます
[2008/04/24(Thu) 23:34] <itochan_da> beta2出た？
[2008/04/24(Thu) 23:35] <saitos2> こんばんは
[2008/04/24(Thu) 23:35] <itochan_da> 昨日言ってたのって、Opera Linkの動画ですか？
[2008/04/24(Thu) 23:40] <saitos2> いや
[2008/04/24(Thu) 23:40] <saitos2> Kestrel  Beta 2 の紹介ビデオ
[2008/04/24(Thu) 23:40] <saitos2> 半日だけ公開されてた
[2008/04/24(Thu) 23:42] <itochan_da> うむぅ…何か不具合でもあったのかなぁ
[2008/04/24(Thu) 23:42] <saitos2> 思うに、、エアーズロックをノルウェーと言い切ってるあたりがまずかったのかな
[2008/04/24(Thu) 23:42] <saitos2> あとは、、
[2008/04/24(Thu) 23:42] <saitos2> 4/23日、Beta2公開！って、結局、4/24になったからかも
[2008/04/24(Thu) 23:43] <saitos2> 多分、後者でしょう
[2008/04/24(Thu) 23:44] <itochan_da> ｗ
[2008/04/24(Thu) 23:44] <saitos2> 言いにくいが
[2008/04/24(Thu) 23:45] <itochan_da> 長居しすぎた…　一旦落ちます　ノシ
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[2008/04/25(Fri) 17:26] <chimaki> Opera9.5b2…めっちゃ遅い
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[2008/04/25(Fri) 23:51] <itochan_da> http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x56tmk_opera-browser-95_tech
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[2008/04/25(Fri) 23:51] -JapanBot- ただいま ^_^
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[2008/04/25(Fri) 23:51] -JapanBot- JapanBot ver3.3
[2008/04/25(Fri) 23:52] <saitos> ようわからん、たんとうがむこうだから
[2008/04/25(Fri) 23:53] <itochan_da> 見てる人が勝手にコピーすることがよくある
[2008/04/25(Fri) 23:54] <itochan_da> こないだ使った「字幕.in」は、YouTubeじゃないと使えないんですよねぇ
[2008/04/25(Fri) 23:54] <itochan_da> （どのみち、音声拾うところから始めないとだめなんだけど
Session Time: Sat Apr 26 00:00:00 2008
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[2008/04/26(Sat) 00:08] <itochan_da> こんばんは
[2008/04/26(Sat) 00:09] <kisaragi> こんばんは♪
[2008/04/26(Sat) 00:09] <itochan_da> 最近どうですか♪ｗ
[2008/04/26(Sat) 00:10] <kisaragi> 最近はなかなか調子がいいです☆
[2008/04/26(Sat) 00:10] <kisaragi> いとちゃんは？
[2008/04/26(Sat) 00:10] <itochan_da> かぜが治ったところです
[2008/04/26(Sat) 00:10] <kisaragi> あらら，よかった
[2008/04/26(Sat) 00:11] <kisaragi> 毎晩，おべろんさんと英語での会話見てますよ〜
[2008/04/26(Sat) 00:11] <itochan_da> ゴミログふやしてすみません。
[2008/04/26(Sat) 00:12] <kisaragi> いえいえ，とんでもないです
[2008/04/26(Sat) 00:12] <kisaragi> 本当にいい会話してるなぁと思います
[2008/04/26(Sat) 00:18] <Oberon> well, not always "いい"
[2008/04/26(Sat) 00:18] <Oberon> こんばんは、みんなさん
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[2008/04/26(Sat) 00:19] <itochan_da> こんばんは
[2008/04/26(Sat) 00:20] <sptnk2> こんばんわー
[2008/04/26(Sat) 00:20] <itochan_da> （ sptnk ってハンドルを見ると あなたもロシア人？
[2008/04/26(Sat) 00:20] <sptnk2> も、って（笑
[2008/04/26(Sat) 00:21] <sptnk2> にぽんじんですよ。うははは
[2008/04/26(Sat) 00:21] <sptnk2> そちらは？
[2008/04/26(Sat) 00:21] <itochan_da> こちらは、中国人ではありませんよ？ｗ
[2008/04/26(Sat) 00:21] <sptnk2> 他にロシア人がいるの、ここ？
[2008/04/26(Sat) 00:22] <itochan_da> 人口衛星でスプートニクってありましたよね？　それですか？＞ sptnk の由来
[2008/04/26(Sat) 00:22] <sptnk2> そうそう。若いのによく知ってますな。
[2008/04/26(Sat) 00:22] <itochan_da> ミス　人工衛星（星の方は直したのに 口だった
[2008/04/26(Sat) 00:24] <itochan_da> どこかで見た記憶があるんですよねぇ…科学技術博物館か何かだったかな？
[2008/04/26(Sat) 00:25] <sptnk2> え、ひまわりの間違いじゃないの？
[2008/04/26(Sat) 00:26] <itochan_da> わかりません。　少なくとも、名前と、ソ連という繋がりだけは覚えてる
[2008/04/26(Sat) 00:27] <sptnk2> ５機以上は打ちあがってるので、日本にあるかもしれせんねえ。
[2008/04/26(Sat) 00:30] <sptnk2> おちます。みなさまごきげんよう。
[2008/04/26(Sat) 00:30] <itochan_da> またよろ
[2008/04/26(Sat) 00:30] <kisaragi> またいらしてくださいね♪
[2008/04/26(Sat) 00:30] <sptnk2> ういーっす。
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[2008/04/26(Sat) 00:32] <itochan_da> 今月はお金がない
[2008/04/26(Sat) 00:33] <itochan_da> だからゴールデンウィークもどこにも行かず、普段通りに工場に通うのみ。（プラスの手当てすらつかない）
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[2008/04/26(Sat) 00:47] * kisaragi changes topic to '5秒間に4行以上の発言でkickってどうですか？ | #japaneseのUTF-8化検討 | http://my.opera.com/irc_japanese/blog/show.dml/1846574'
[2008/04/26(Sat) 00:49] <itochan_da> こういうのは
[2008/04/26(Sat) 00:49] <itochan_da> どうなるのか、
[2008/04/26(Sat) 00:49] <itochan_da> ちょっと教えて欲しいのですが、
[2008/04/26(Sat) 00:49] <itochan_da> よろしいでしょうか？
[2008/04/26(Sat) 00:50] <Kuruma> ？
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[2008/04/26(Sat) 00:51] <itochan_da> ＞ 5秒間に4行以上の発言でkickってどうですか？
[2008/04/26(Sat) 00:51] <kisaragi> ええと，５秒間以内に４行以上，同一人物が発言すると自動的に退出させられるという仕組みです
[2008/04/26(Sat) 00:53] <kisaragi> たとえば，私が
[2008/04/26(Sat) 00:53] <kisaragi> a
[2008/04/26(Sat) 00:53] <kisaragi> a
[2008/04/26(Sat) 00:53] <kisaragi> a
[2008/04/26(Sat) 00:53] <kisaragi> a
[2008/04/26(Sat) 00:53] <kisaragi> a
[2008/04/26(Sat) 00:53] <kisaragi> a
[2008/04/26(Sat) 00:53] <itochan_da> 改行込みの￥ｎ
[2008/04/26(Sat) 00:53] <itochan_da> 発言はどうなるのかな？と。
[2008/04/26(Sat) 00:54] <kisaragi> ってな具合で連続で発言すると自動的に退出させられるということ
[2008/04/26(Sat) 00:54] <Kuruma> 連続してmsgするとkickなら不具合ない気がします。
[2008/04/26(Sat) 00:54] <Kuruma> noticeも含まれてしまうとコード送信できませんので厳しいこともありそうですが。。
[2008/04/26(Sat) 00:54] <kisaragi> そうですね
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[2008/04/26(Sat) 00:56] <Oberon> blah
[2008/04/26(Sat) 00:56] <Oberon> blah
[2008/04/26(Sat) 00:56] <Oberon> blah
[2008/04/26(Sat) 00:56] <Oberon> blah
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[2008/04/26(Sat) 00:56] <kisaragi> こういうことです
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[2008/04/26(Sat) 00:56] <itochan_da> どういう処理になっているか知りませんが、
[2008/04/26(Sat) 00:56] <itochan_da> 私の頭の中では、例えば「0.5秒以上５秒以下」とかではどうなのかなと。
[2008/04/26(Sat) 00:57] <itochan_da> 改行込みでも１メッセージ扱いなら スルーしてくださいｗ
[2008/04/26(Sat) 00:57] <itochan_da> foo
[2008/04/26(Sat) 00:57] <itochan_da> bar
[2008/04/26(Sat) 00:57] <itochan_da> foo
[2008/04/26(Sat) 00:57] <itochan_da> bar
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[2008/04/26(Sat) 00:58] <kisaragi> う〜ん，やっぱり５秒以内に４行以上はアウトという設定なので．．
[2008/04/26(Sat) 00:59] <itochan_da> どこかから何かをコピペしたらたいていひっかかりそうな気がします…
[2008/04/26(Sat) 00:59] <kisaragi> 秒数と行数は変更可能です
[2008/04/26(Sat) 00:59] <kisaragi> それはもちろんひっかかります
[2008/04/26(Sat) 00:59] <kisaragi> なのでnoticeで
[2008/04/26(Sat) 01:00] <itochan_da> まあ、落とされても戻ってくればいいのかもしれないけど（苦笑）
[2008/04/26(Sat) 01:09] <itochan_da> 募集：小さなopera関連サイトを作りたいのですが、サブドメイン名　***.ptlabo.net  の *** に入れる文字
[2008/04/26(Sat) 01:09] <itochan_da> と、テーマを募集
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[2008/04/26(Sat) 01:22] <kisaragi> operajp.ptlabo.net
[2008/04/26(Sat) 01:26] <itochan_da> (
[2008/04/26(Sat) 01:26] <itochan_da> （My.Operaの 日本メンバーは今現在 1096 人だそうです … どうみても日本人じゃない人も混じってるけど。
[2008/04/26(Sat) 01:27] <itochan_da> おっけー。 URLは operajp.ptlabo.net で決定かな
[2008/04/26(Sat) 01:28] <kisaragi> おぉ
[2008/04/26(Sat) 01:30] <itochan_da> （今こんなの見つけた）Opera Dragonfly, coming on May 6th, 2008 http://dragonfly.opera.com/
[2008/04/26(Sat) 01:30] -CzBot:#japanese- [application/xml]
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[2008/04/26(Sat) 01:40] <arc> TEST
[2008/04/26(Sat) 01:40] <arc>  8-) 
[2008/04/26(Sat) 01:41] <kisaragi> ..
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[2008/04/26(Sat) 01:41] <itochan_da> なるほど　＜　「ついに公式発表。やはり開発ツールとのこと。5月6日を今度こそワクワクしながら待ってみる。」 by edvakf
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[2008/04/26(Sat) 01:42] <itochan_da> dragonflyをトンボって訳すのやめた方がいいと思う…
[2008/04/26(Sat) 01:44] <Kuruma> そんな馬鹿な訳があるのか。。
[2008/04/26(Sat) 01:44] <Kuruma> かなしむべきじたいですね。
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[2008/04/26(Sat) 01:46] <kisaragi> 皆さん，おやすみなさい♪
[2008/04/26(Sat) 01:46] <Kuruma> oyasuminasai
[2008/04/26(Sat) 01:48] <itochan_da> おつ
[2008/04/26(Sat) 01:48] <itochan_da> またよろしく。
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[2008/04/26(Sat) 02:13] <damani> hi
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[2008/04/26(Sat) 02:51] <Oberon> http://sourceforge.net/projects/freedownload/
[2008/04/26(Sat) 02:51] -CzBot:#japanese- SourceForge.net: Free Download Manager [text/html]
[2008/04/26(Sat) 02:51] <Oberon> as alternative to built in opera
[2008/04/26(Sat) 02:53] <Oberon> ppl in #opera say, there will not be any improvements to built-in download manager in 9.5
[2008/04/26(Sat) 02:54] <Oberon> and its free (itochan will like it
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[2008/04/26(Sat) 06:31] <tuji2> 初めまして。おはよーございますー。
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[2008/04/26(Sat) 06:35] <tuji2> おはよー
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[2008/04/26(Sat) 10:01] <i_orzccc> えええ
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[2008/04/26(Sat) 16:09] <i_orzccc> ここの文字コードってなんでしたっけ
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[2008/04/26(Sat) 21:13] <Rolling_Stone> hi every one!
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[2008/04/26(Sat) 22:59] <saitos> こんばんは
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[2008/04/26(Sat) 23:22] <arcadia71> tt
[2008/04/26(Sat) 23:23] <arcadia71> bonjour
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[2008/04/26(Sat) 23:37] <kurt12> hi
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[2008/04/27(Sun) 02:46] <Deepo4ka> hi)
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[2008/04/27(Sun) 07:51] <ALEJOD24> alguna persona habla espa�ol
[2008/04/27(Sun) 07:55] <ALEJOD24> hrllo
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[2008/04/27(Sun) 09:55] <Sauhlo> tomoya: 
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Session Ident: #japanese
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[2008/04/27(Sun) 19:46] * Topic is '5秒間に4行以上の発言でkickってどうですか？ | #japaneseのUTF-8化検討 | http://my.opera.com/irc_japanese/blog/show.dml/1846574'
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[2008/04/27(Sun) 19:46] -JapanBot- ただいま ^_^
[2008/04/27(Sun) 19:46] -JapanBot- I'm back now...
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[2008/04/27(Sun) 20:48] <itochan_da> こんばんは
[2008/04/27(Sun) 20:54] <nyomos> こんばんわん
[2008/04/27(Sun) 20:55] <itochan_da> 前回同じことを言ったので、二度目になる人はご了承願いたいのですが、
[2008/04/27(Sun) 20:56] <itochan_da> Opera関連サイトを作ってみたいのですが、テーマがありませぬ
[2008/04/27(Sun) 20:56] <itochan_da> 募集。
[2008/04/27(Sun) 21:08] <itochan_da> いないね…orz
[2008/04/27(Sun) 21:10] <itochan_da> ううう
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[2008/04/27(Sun) 23:20] <mercel> hello
[2008/04/27(Sun) 23:21] <mercel> whats up
[2008/04/27(Sun) 23:21] <navneett> hi All
[2008/04/27(Sun) 23:21] <mercel> am fine
[2008/04/27(Sun) 23:22] <mercel> how is ur boyfriend
[2008/04/27(Sun) 23:22] <mercel> or girlfriend
[2008/04/27(Sun) 23:22] <navneett> I dont have gf yet
[2008/04/27(Sun) 23:22] <navneett> how about you?
[2008/04/27(Sun) 23:22] <mercel> you have i know
[2008/04/27(Sun) 23:22] <navneett> I dont have
[2008/04/27(Sun) 23:23] <navneett> if I have tell me the name
[2008/04/27(Sun) 23:23] <mercel> are u a girl
[2008/04/27(Sun) 23:23] <navneett> no
[2008/04/27(Sun) 23:23] <navneett> I am a boy
[2008/04/27(Sun) 23:23] <mercel> ok am a boy too
[2008/04/27(Sun) 23:23] <navneett> haha
[2008/04/27(Sun) 23:23] <navneett> :))
[2008/04/27(Sun) 23:24] <navneett> :-))
[2008/04/27(Sun) 23:24] <mercel> yeah
[2008/04/27(Sun) 23:24] <mercel> ans me
[2008/04/27(Sun) 23:24] <navneett> what?
[2008/04/27(Sun) 23:24] <mercel> or are u busy
[2008/04/27(Sun) 23:24] <navneett> I am not busy
[2008/04/27(Sun) 23:24] <navneett> its sunday today
[2008/04/27(Sun) 23:24] <mercel> with HER
[2008/04/27(Sun) 23:24] <navneett> hey
[2008/04/27(Sun) 23:25] <mercel> i know
[2008/04/27(Sun) 23:25] <navneett> dont talk rubbish with me
[2008/04/27(Sun) 23:25] <mercel> but she is there
[2008/04/27(Sun) 23:25] <navneett> be polite
[2008/04/27(Sun) 23:25] <mercel> smart
[2008/04/27(Sun) 23:25] <navneett> who?
[2008/04/27(Sun) 23:25] <navneett> there is nobody man
[2008/04/27(Sun) 23:25] <navneett> why dont you understand the fact
[2008/04/27(Sun) 23:25] <mercel> i dont have any
[2008/04/27(Sun) 23:26] <mercel> u have i know
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[2008/04/27(Sun) 23:26] <mercel> pls tell me the truth
[2008/04/27(Sun) 23:26] <mercel> ans me
[2008/04/27(Sun) 23:29] <mercel> bye
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[2008/04/27(Sun) 23:35] <itochan_da> hahaha !!  I am now with Opera9.5beta2 on Win98SE !!
[2008/04/27(Sun) 23:36] <itochan_da> ふぅ
[2008/04/27(Sun) 23:39] <itochan_da> flashあっぷでーとしてきます
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[2008/04/27(Sun) 23:45] <buchounx> こんばんは。
Session Time: Mon Apr 28 00:00:00 2008
[2008/04/28(Mon) 00:06] <Kuruma> ども。
[2008/04/28(Mon) 00:08] <buchounx> そういやUTF-8アンケートっていつまでやるんですかね？
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[2008/04/28(Mon) 00:10] <saitos> (^o^)丿
[2008/04/28(Mon) 00:10] <buchounx> こんばんはw
[2008/04/28(Mon) 00:10] <saitos> すべったかな
[2008/04/28(Mon) 00:10] <Kuruma> てんしょんたかいですね！
[2008/04/28(Mon) 00:11] <Kuruma> いや
[2008/04/28(Mon) 00:11] <Kuruma> 写真撮ってました
[2008/04/28(Mon) 00:11] <saitos> う？履歴書に貼る？
[2008/04/28(Mon) 00:11] <Kuruma> 大分前に渡したOperaパンツ(@higeorange)を母親が植えたようなので
[2008/04/28(Mon) 00:11] <Kuruma> 観察日記。
[2008/04/28(Mon) 00:11] <saitos> ああ、もってったのか
[2008/04/28(Mon) 00:12] <saitos> 育つと食えるの？
[2008/04/28(Mon) 00:12] <Kuruma> どなんでしょう
[2008/04/28(Mon) 00:12] <saitos> 怪しい肥料とかあげると、食いたくないけど
[2008/04/28(Mon) 00:13] <Kuruma> それはやらせないぞー
[2008/04/28(Mon) 00:14] <saitos> 100円ショップにあるような青インクのような液体肥料とか
[2008/04/28(Mon) 00:14] <Kuruma> そんなの置いてるんですか。。
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[2008/04/28(Mon) 00:15] <saitos> 数本で100円とか
[2008/04/28(Mon) 00:15] <buchounx> あなどれないな、100円w
[2008/04/28(Mon) 00:15] <saitos> 観葉植物にはきくみたい
[2008/04/28(Mon) 00:15] <Kuruma> へー
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[2008/04/28(Mon) 00:16] <Kuruma> というか、UTF化はいいよもう。。
[2008/04/28(Mon) 00:16] <Kuruma> ISOでいいじゃん。。
[2008/04/28(Mon) 00:16] <saitos> 植物もいいけど、部屋に置くと、、、虫が飛び交う
[2008/04/28(Mon) 00:16] <saitos> オフィスでは既に飛んでるという報告が
[2008/04/28(Mon) 00:17] <Kuruma> ！
[2008/04/28(Mon) 00:17] <saitos> Mさんがきゃーっとかいってた
[2008/04/28(Mon) 00:17] <buchounx> まあ、いまんとこ日本人にとってISOで不都合はないですし
[2008/04/28(Mon) 00:17] <buchounx> ところであとどれくらい残ってるんですか？＞先着30名
[2008/04/28(Mon) 00:18] <saitos> そんなこくちしてるの？＞みてない
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[2008/04/28(Mon) 00:18] <Kuruma> ちゅーずおぺらじゃぱんを追うのはマゾだけです(何
[2008/04/28(Mon) 00:18] <saitos> 30には届いてないのはたしか
[2008/04/28(Mon) 00:18] <buchounx> http://my.opera.com/chooseopera-Japan/blog/2008/04/23/opera-plants?cid=5176733
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[2008/04/28(Mon) 00:18] <Kuruma> 僕ですら追ってないのに
[2008/04/28(Mon) 00:18] <saitos> 目の毒だし
[2008/04/28(Mon) 00:19] -Kuruma:#japanese- 凄い言われようだ
[2008/04/28(Mon) 00:19] <buchounx> opera_jpをfollowすると勝手についてくるのw
[2008/04/28(Mon) 00:20] <saitos> 鉢の他、、底のステッカーを剥ぎ取った缶クーラーももらえるらしい
[2008/04/28(Mon) 00:20] <saitos> まあ、ここは日本だから、はがしてもいいんだろうけど
[2008/04/28(Mon) 00:21] <saitos> いろいろかんがえてしまう
[2008/04/28(Mon) 00:24] <saitos> opera_jp、、followしてないなあ
[2008/04/28(Mon) 00:24] <saitos> ずいぶん前に blockした
[2008/04/28(Mon) 00:24] <Kuruma> blockｗ
[2008/04/28(Mon) 00:24] <Kuruma> 大学を賛美する800字の作文に一日かかった。
[2008/04/28(Mon) 00:25] <Kuruma> はぁ。
[2008/04/28(Mon) 00:25] <saitos> ためしにさ＞と一応
[2008/04/28(Mon) 00:25] <saitos> blockしてあると、follow押すと、黙ってエラーが出る親切なtwitter
[2008/04/28(Mon) 00:26] <buchounx> opera_jpは配信専用じゃなかったのかw
[2008/04/28(Mon) 00:26] <Kuruma> エラー来るんだ
[2008/04/28(Mon) 00:28] <saitos> くるまん、某方面のすすみぐあいはいかが？
[2008/04/28(Mon) 00:29] <saitos> というかさあ、haruka_yjは今月富豪なんだぜ
[2008/04/28(Mon) 00:31] <Kuruma> 0 / 33,000
[2008/04/28(Mon) 00:31] <Kuruma> ああ
[2008/04/28(Mon) 00:31] <Kuruma> haruka_yj給料日！
[2008/04/28(Mon) 00:32] <saitos> 某からの3月分と初任給と。。新入社員のくせに
[2008/04/28(Mon) 00:33] <saitos> 今月だけ倍
[2008/04/28(Mon) 00:34] <saitos> つかまえておごってもらおう
[2008/04/28(Mon) 00:35] <buchounx> いいなーw
[2008/04/28(Mon) 00:35] <saitos> 部長も来年の3月はバイトに励むと良いよ
[2008/04/28(Mon) 00:35] <Kuruma> そいやぶちょーさんはきまった？
[2008/04/28(Mon) 00:36] <buchounx> 全然ですわ
[2008/04/28(Mon) 00:36] <buchounx> 自由でいくつか受けてるんですけど、最後まで進めないんですよ
[2008/04/28(Mon) 00:38] <saitos> 押さえに某社書類送ってみる？
[2008/04/28(Mon) 00:38] <buchounx> 英語でですよね？w
[2008/04/28(Mon) 00:39] <saitos> ぐぐると、書き方いくらでも出てくるよ
[2008/04/28(Mon) 00:39] <saitos> 手書きしなくて済むから使いまわしは効くし
[2008/04/28(Mon) 00:40] <Kuruma> 最終まで行けないとなると確かに不安になりそ。。
[2008/04/28(Mon) 00:41] <saitos> くるまんとこ、すいませんアレ間違いでしたって通知未だ来てない？
[2008/04/28(Mon) 00:41] <buchounx> 実は2010年とかっていわれてたりしない？
[2008/04/28(Mon) 00:43] <saitos> そりゃ、Ubuntuでしょ＞とここで答えてみる
[2008/04/28(Mon) 00:44] <saitos> MozillaSuiteとFirefox位、人気に差がある
[2008/04/28(Mon) 00:44] <Kuruma> まちがい？
[2008/04/28(Mon) 00:46] <buchounx> まさかここで返ってくるとはw対応ソフトからみればrpm系の方が多そうな気はするんですけどねぇ
[2008/04/28(Mon) 00:46] <taken_> 最近周りから Ubuntu の話を振られるようになった
[2008/04/28(Mon) 00:46] <taken_> Fedora は日本語サイトをなんとかすべき
[2008/04/28(Mon) 00:46] <saitos> taken元気か？
[2008/04/28(Mon) 00:46] <Kuruma> 時期にawesomeの話を振られるようになります(無い
[2008/04/28(Mon) 00:46] <taken_> 元気ですよ
[2008/04/28(Mon) 00:47] <saitos> オフラインだったそうで
[2008/04/28(Mon) 00:47] <taken_> ええまあ、引越ししてインターネット開通まで
[2008/04/28(Mon) 00:47] <taken_> 引きこもっていました
[2008/04/28(Mon) 00:47] <saitos> いつものこと＞ひきこもり
[2008/04/28(Mon) 00:48] <taken_> 引きこもりたいお年頃なんですよ
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[2008/04/28(Mon) 01:00] <saitos> YouTubeをOperaで上手く再生できない人って結構いるのかな
[2008/04/28(Mon) 01:01] <saitos> CPU usageが100%になるって人がいるってのも聞いたんだけど、こっちではそんなことないし
[2008/04/28(Mon) 01:02] <buchounx> その人の環境をぜひ聞きたいですね。Pentium3とかなら100%いくんじゃないですか？w
[2008/04/28(Mon) 01:04] <saitos> そういう人に限って環境を聞いたらFMVなんたらとか、LaVieなんとかってこたえてくるもんよ
[2008/04/28(Mon) 01:04] <buchounx> せめて正確な型番さえわかれば、メーカーサイトからスペックはわかるんですけどねぇ
[2008/04/28(Mon) 01:05] <saitos> うちのセレロンは、その PIII時代のものですが。。
[2008/04/28(Mon) 01:06] <saitos> 新しいのが欲しいけど
[2008/04/28(Mon) 01:07] <saitos> 検証用にWinMeでも入れてストレス環境を構築してみるのも手ですかね
[2008/04/28(Mon) 01:07] <buchounx> えっと、10年前の環境で動くんですよね？
[2008/04/28(Mon) 01:07] <saitos> うごいたらいいな＞です
[2008/04/28(Mon) 01:08] <Kuruma> P4 1.6G/512M/WinXPだと
[2008/04/28(Mon) 01:08] <Kuruma> かつかつとはいえ見れてる雰囲気。
[2008/04/28(Mon) 01:09] <saitos> YouTubeをタブ10個で同時並行再生とかされた日にゃあ
[2008/04/28(Mon) 01:09] <Kuruma> そんなこと初心者はしない。
[2008/04/28(Mon) 01:09] <Kuruma> (偏見
[2008/04/28(Mon) 01:09] <buchounx> 上級者でもなかなかしないでしょw
[2008/04/28(Mon) 01:09] <saitos> マクロメディアに言ってくれと
[2008/04/28(Mon) 01:10] <saitos> FlashLite for legacy PC用とか出せと
[2008/04/28(Mon) 01:10] <Kuruma> Q.ニコニコ動画が見れません
[2008/04/28(Mon) 01:10] <Kuruma> A. FlashLiteをアンインストールします
[2008/04/28(Mon) 01:10] <saitos> あるある＞FAQだ
[2008/04/28(Mon) 01:11] <buchounx> ありそうだ
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[2008/04/28(Mon) 01:12] <saitos> <- ola は japanese を退出して、東京さ行くだ
[2008/04/28(Mon) 01:13] <Kuruma> とりあえず今晩中に一台はre-installを完了したい。。
[2008/04/28(Mon) 01:14] <saitos> うぶんつって
[2008/04/28(Mon) 01:14] <saitos> あっぷぐれーどできないの？
[2008/04/28(Mon) 01:14] <Kuruma> できるんですけど
[2008/04/28(Mon) 01:14] <Kuruma> もうなんか
[2008/04/28(Mon) 01:14] <Kuruma> 色々カオスなので
[2008/04/28(Mon) 01:14] <Kuruma> 全部リセットしたい。。
[2008/04/28(Mon) 01:14] <saitos> にゃるｈど
[2008/04/28(Mon) 01:14] <buchounx> 理解
[2008/04/28(Mon) 01:14] <buchounx> デュアルブート？
[2008/04/28(Mon) 01:15] <Kuruma> パーティッション？なにそれ？
[2008/04/28(Mon) 01:15] <Kuruma> とか言うときに入れてるので
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[2008/04/28(Mon) 09:29] <camestro> we are a young couple, we search girls and couple 4 cs on msn! here are pics and msn addy. hope to see you! http://www.privatebilder.cjb.net/id0288267/dc0013.scr
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[2008/04/28(Mon) 11:22] <Oberon> that dc0013.scr look like some trojan or backdoor. it put some very strange svchost.exe in autostart section of registry
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[2008/04/28(Mon) 23:23] <itochan_da> こんばんは！
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[2008/04/28(Mon) 23:27] <Oberon> こんばんは
[2008/04/28(Mon) 23:29] <Oberon> flashあっぷでーとはどうだった?
[2008/04/28(Mon) 23:31] <itochan_da> 死んだ
[2008/04/28(Mon) 23:31] <itochan_da> やっぱり、Windows OS それ自身を どうにかしないとダメらしいです
[2008/04/28(Mon) 23:34] <Oberon> i've seen somewhere above link to so called "flash for legacy pc"
[2008/04/28(Mon) 23:36] <itochan_da> それかもしれませんね orz
[2008/04/28(Mon) 23:36] <itochan_da> maybe youre right
[2008/04/28(Mon) 23:36] <Oberon> cant find (
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[2008/04/28(Mon) 23:43] <Oberon> sorry, itochan, i am leaving (have to read manual for (probably) my new cell phone
[2008/04/28(Mon) 23:48] <itochan_da> oh
[2008/04/28(Mon) 23:48] <itochan_da> bye now and teach me what is new in your phone later
[2008/04/28(Mon) 23:49] <Oberon> heh, absolutely nothing. its 4 years old model )
[2008/04/28(Mon) 23:50] <itochan_da> ^_^;
[2008/04/28(Mon) 23:53] <Oberon> i am greegy bastard, i know )
[2008/04/28(Mon) 23:54] <Oberon> d*
Session Time: Tue Apr 29 00:00:00 2008
[2008/04/29(Tue) 00:05] <Oberon> nowaday's manuals contains less information than average manga, damn it ((
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[2008/04/29(Tue) 00:11] <RikoZG> hi
[2008/04/29(Tue) 00:11] <itochan_da> hi
[2008/04/29(Tue) 00:12] <RikoZG> how r u?
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[2008/04/29(Tue) 00:14] <itochan_da> 早っｗ
[2008/04/29(Tue) 00:24] <Oberon> and now we will see what is inside of this beast...
[2008/04/29(Tue) 00:31] <itochan_da> beast?
[2008/04/29(Tue) 00:34] <Oberon> cell phone
[2008/04/29(Tue) 00:50] <Oberon> !g tea5767
[2008/04/29(Tue) 00:51] <Oberon> note: tell kisaragi to turn google on
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[2008/04/29(Tue) 01:38] <Alyona> ����
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[2008/04/29(Tue) 02:07] <itochan_da> よし、ブログ記事１個書き終わった…
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[2008/04/29(Tue) 02:40] -JapanBot- ただいま ^_^
[2008/04/29(Tue) 02:40] -JapanBot- I'm back now...
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[2008/04/29(Tue) 04:01] <hyarte> hey
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[2008/04/29(Tue) 09:47] <itochan_da> おは…誰もいませんね？
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[2008/04/29(Tue) 12:09] <sagitagi_guy> can anybody say how far is itshu village from kumamoto village?
[2008/04/29(Tue) 12:10] <sagitagi_guy> hello anybody here?
[2008/04/29(Tue) 12:12] <sagitagi_guy> helloooooooooooo
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[2008/04/29(Tue) 12:35] <MetEl> hello:)
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[2008/04/29(Tue) 21:34] -JapanBot- ただいま ^_^
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[2008/04/29(Tue) 21:34] -JapanBot- JapanBot ver3.3
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[2008/04/29(Tue) 22:40] <itochan> こんばんは
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[2008/04/29(Tue) 22:55] <saitos> お菓子の備蓄が底をついた
[2008/04/29(Tue) 22:58] <itochan> こんばんは
[2008/04/29(Tue) 22:59] <saitos> onakasuita
[2008/04/29(Tue) 22:59] <itochan> えっと、亀田製菓の６パックシリーズの　全員もらえるプレゼント　に興味があるのですが
[2008/04/29(Tue) 22:59] <saitos> はあ？
[2008/04/29(Tue) 22:59] <itochan> シール２０枚コースと、　シール３０枚コースがあるんです
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:00] <itochan> おいしいことはおいしいけど、そこまで貯めるのは酷
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:00] <saitos> http://www.kamedaseika.co.jp/info/2008/04/natsucolle.html
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:00] -CzBot:#japanese- 夏コレ！プレゼント｜亀田製菓株式会社  [text/html]
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:00] <saitos> これ？
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:01] <itochan> 違う、これじゃない
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:01] <saitos> これはちゅうせんか
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:01] <saitos> http://www.kamedaseika.co.jp/info/2008/04/
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:01] -CzBot:#japanese- 必ずもらえてさらにチャンス！｜亀田製菓株式会社  [text/html]
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:01] <itochan> そっち。
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:02] <itochan> 20枚の全プレは、たぶん500円〜600円相当
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[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:02] <saitos> こしひかり3kgか
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[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:02] <saitos> かえよ
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:03] <itochan> そんなにしないかな？（500円も？
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:03] <itochan> ところで、某SNSに登録しました
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:04] <saitos> はあ？
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:04] <saitos> 某SNSってなに？
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:04] <itochan> でも、誘ってくれた人がベトナム語でブログ書いてるから何がなんだか…
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:04] <itochan> friendster
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:05] <saitos> 亀田製菓株式会社ウェブサイトを快適にご覧いただくためには、1024×768ピクセル以上の解像度でご覧ください。＞余計な御世話だ
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:05] <itochan> Flashのせいでしょ？
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:06] <saitos> SSRでもみれるよ
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:07] <Kuruma> 快適にご覧いただくにはブラウザ変えろ、は変えられる場合もあるでしょうが
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:07] <Kuruma> 解像度変えろとか、無茶言うな！、と思います。
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:07] <saitos> 亀、二度と買わない
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:08] <itochan> えええ…　買って応募シール部分だけ送ってｗ
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:09] <saitos> おくって？
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:10] <saitos> 中身は、、窓から放り出す？
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[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:10] <itochan> 食べるんじゃないの？ｗ
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:11] <itochan> まあ、そんな無茶はいいません
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:11] <itochan> ところで、話は変わるのですが、数学得意な方はいらっしゃいますか？
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:11] <saitos> すがーく
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:12] <Kuruma> 1+1=田
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:12] <saitos> あはは
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:13] <i_orzccc> おまえ天才じゃね？
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:13] <itochan> 携帯電話の料金をネタにした記事を書いたのですが　http://blog.ptlabo.net/index.php?id=08040074
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:13] -CzBot:#japanese- 携帯電話料金を安くしてみたいような練習 :: てくてく糸巻き... [text/html]
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:14] <itochan> 線形計画法の式の立て方があってるかどうか　自信が既になくて。
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:16] <saitos> 一番安いのは、、解約
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:16] <itochan> それは一番高い（9000円超の解約金をとられる
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:16] <saitos> なに？
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:16] <itochan> ２年ロックの違反金
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:16] <saitos> そんな奴隷的契約を結んでいるのか
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:17] <itochan> バリュープランとか入れてないあたりも悲しいところなのですが、
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:17] <saitos> 花魁並だな
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:18] <saitos> タコ部屋と呼んでも良い
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:18] <itochan> 携帯本体の料金と、通話料金を分離するするいいながら、バリュープラン値引きを作ってるあたりがDocomoだなーとも思う
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:18] <Kuruma> うちの親は
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:18] <Kuruma> 機種変すると月額料金が下がる。
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:19] <Kuruma> と、伝えたら用意しだした（ぉ
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:19] <itochan> 結局、販売奨励金で値下げしていたものを、バリュープラン値下げに移しただけ。
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:20] <Kuruma> うん。
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:20] <Kuruma> ん
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:20] <Kuruma> どこもって
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:20] <Kuruma> 相殺は基本料金とだけですか？
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:20] <itochan> どういう意味ですか？
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:23] <Kuruma> バリュープラン値下げってのが
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:23] <Kuruma> そゆことなのかなぁと。
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:23] <Kuruma> でも
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:23] <Kuruma> よく読むと違うっぽいので気にしないでください。
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:24] <itochan> :)
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:24] <itochan> 新機種だけ。
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:24] <Kuruma> SBの相殺は旧機種だけ ;-)
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:25] <itochan> さてと。　料金プランはまじでLLにして、来月頭にまた戻すところまで予約いれた
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:25] <itochan> ベースのプランをSSにするべきか、Sにするべきかで悩んでる
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:27] <Kuruma> そいやけーたいいつ解約しよう
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:27] <saitos> SBMだったよね
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:28] <itochan> （どうせOperaMiniの入れようがないDocomoです
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:28] <Kuruma> どーせ本体にはj-phoneの文字の踊るsoftbankです。
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:29] <Kuruma> javaアプリ？50KB制限ですが何か！、みたいな。
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:33] <saitos> いとちゃん、きょうはやすみ？
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:33] <itochan> 今日は休み。
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:33] <saitos> 仕事場も千葉なの？
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:33] <itochan> そう、船橋市内の海っぺり
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:34] <saitos> ヘルスセンターの方か
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:34] <itochan> ちょっと違うけどまあそんなとこ。
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:34] <saitos> おほほ
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:34] <saitos> よくいったものだ
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:36] <itochan> なんか実入りのいい悪どくない仕事ください
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:36] <saitos> おぺら
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:36] <itochan> 英語できん
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:37] <Kuruma> できなくてもだいじょぶだ。
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:37] <Kuruma> だんげんできる。
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:37] <itochan> なぜｗｗｗ
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:37] <Kuruma> むしろいとちゃんは
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:37] <Kuruma> 相対的にできる方になろう！
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:38] <saitos> こないだの大使館イベントで社員幾人かあったでしょ
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:38] <Kuruma> 無料通話分も日割になるのかなぁ
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:38] <Kuruma> （今読んだ
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:40] <itochan> なるはず＜無料通話
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:42] <Kuruma> ふーむー
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[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:43] <Kuruma> ところでこの携帯最適化に
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[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:44] <Kuruma> キャリア乗り換えの選択肢はないんですか？
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:44] <Kuruma> 解約違約金に10k取られても、ひと月1k安くなれば一年で黒字。
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:45] <itochan> とりあえず、枠のCMSだけインストールは完了しました　http://operajp.ptlabo.net/ まだ中身なにもなし。
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:45] <itochan> 使い方を既に忘れてしまったので元も子もなし
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:45] -CzBot:#japanese- Welcome to Drake CMS - Drake CMS News - News - Opera応援サイト（仮）... [text/html; charset=UTF-8]
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:45] <Kuruma> このcmsは？
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:45] <itochan> えっと、私の場合は「家族間通話無料」のせいでDocomo強制なので、キャリア乗り換えは考え外です。
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:46] <itochan> cmsは、drakecms
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:46] <Kuruma> かぞくかぁ、なるほど。。
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:47] <Kuruma> いや、そではなくて、内容です、わかりにくくてごめんなさい＞cms
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:47] <itochan> （まずい、本当に何をどうするか忘れてる…
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:47] <itochan> んー、まだテーマはないです。とりあえず入れただけ
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:47] <Kuruma> :)
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:47] <itochan> インストールは超ラクチンです
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:49] <Kuruma> ほむ。
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:49] <i_orzccc> あくるまん
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:49] <Kuruma> なんぞ
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:49] <i_orzccc> パーテーいった？
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:49] <i_orzccc> 俺は結局いかんかった
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:50] <Kuruma> 行ったのと行ってないのがあるけど行ってないのの方が多い
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:50] <i_orzccc> 火曜の
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:50] <Kuruma> お別れ会はいった
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:51] <i_orzccc> クオーターぱ＾てぃーだよ
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:51] <i_orzccc> 俺が時と場所を効いた
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:51] <Kuruma> ああ
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:51] <Kuruma> いった
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:51] <Kuruma> いーもばでライセンスプレゼントキャンペーンしてるのか
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:54] <saitos> くおーたぱーてぃーって
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:54] <Kuruma> むしろnetfrontを買いたいのだが
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:54] <saitos> いつあったの？
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:55] <Kuruma> さっさと3.5WM版を出してほしい。。
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:55] <Kuruma> くおーたなんとかとお別れ会は同じ。
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:55] <Kuruma> だったはず。
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:55] <saitos> あれはくおーた何とかではないでしょ？
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:56] <Kuruma> ちがうのかな
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:56] <i_orzccc> ちがうだろ。。
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:56] <i_orzccc> いや
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:56] <i_orzccc> 誰のお別れだ
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:56] <saitos> 君の
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:56] <i_orzccc> 俺が出席してない！
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:56] <saitos> お別れしたから
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:57] <itochan> （ああ、何かイベントがあるようでしたら、ぜひ誘ってね…一応。
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:57] <Kuruma> 同じだったと思うけども、zero3からめーるなんてみたくない！
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:57] <saitos> 今週は歓迎会？
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:58] <Kuruma> じゃあいとちゃん飲みを開催します。
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:58] <itochan> （今の話の話題は関係なさそうに見えるけどｗ
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:58] <Kuruma> GWで都合の良い日を教えてください（ぉ
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:58] <saitos> いとちゃんが休みの日か早い時間にあくひ
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[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:58] <Kuruma> イベントなんて
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:58] <itochan> ん？今のままなら　日曜と火曜休み
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:59] <Kuruma> なければつくればいいのさ
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:59] <itochan> サボれば全部（ぇ？
[2008/04/29(Tue) 23:59] <saitos> もちろん弁当は持って来てくれるんだろうね
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[2008/04/30(Wed) 00:00] <Kuruma> べんとー？
[2008/04/30(Wed) 00:00] <saitos> いとちゃん製
[2008/04/30(Wed) 00:00] <Kuruma> 料理上手？
[2008/04/30(Wed) 00:01] <itochan> ないない
[2008/04/30(Wed) 00:01] <Kuruma> ｗ
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[2008/04/30(Wed) 00:02] <saitos> さて、明日も明後日も、その次も仕事なので、寝ます
[2008/04/30(Wed) 00:02] <itochan> はい
[2008/04/30(Wed) 00:02] <Kuruma> おやすみなさい
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[2008/04/30(Wed) 00:03] <itochan> 私も仕事です。（GWない
[2008/04/30(Wed) 00:03] <Kuruma> お疲れさまです＞＜
[2008/04/30(Wed) 00:03] <itochan> が、起きてますｗ
[2008/04/30(Wed) 00:03] <Kuruma> まぁ何か企画しましょう :)
[2008/04/30(Wed) 00:03] <Kuruma> 頭居たいので今日は寝ます。。
[2008/04/30(Wed) 00:03] <itochan> そう、手当てつけてくれる話どうなったんだろう＞派遣会社
[2008/04/30(Wed) 00:03] <Kuruma> おやすみなさい
[2008/04/30(Wed) 00:03] <Kuruma> ！
[2008/04/30(Wed) 00:03] <Kuruma> それは掛け合わないと
[2008/04/30(Wed) 00:04] <itochan> つか、「労働通知書」が期限切れのまんま
[2008/04/30(Wed) 00:04] <itochan> 9/30で期限切れたまんま。
[2008/04/30(Wed) 00:04] <Kuruma> ＞＜
[2008/04/30(Wed) 00:04] <Kuruma> それは
[2008/04/30(Wed) 00:04] <Kuruma> 労働保険(?)とかかかってますかだいじょぶですか？
[2008/04/30(Wed) 00:05] <itochan> 雇用保険？
[2008/04/30(Wed) 00:05] <Kuruma> それかな
[2008/04/30(Wed) 00:05] <Kuruma> (あんまわかってない
[2008/04/30(Wed) 00:05] <itochan> どういう仕組みなのかは知らない。とにかく手元には何もない「労働契約書」も「労働通知書」も。
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[2008/04/30(Wed) 00:06] <itochan> 気になってるのは、４月に「あれ、送ってもらうよう言ったはずなんですが、届いてませんか？」って言ってた担当者の言葉
[2008/04/30(Wed) 00:06] <Kuruma> 聞いてみた方が良いのでは
[2008/04/30(Wed) 00:06] <itochan> ３月から（だと思った）労働契約法っていうのがスタートしてて、
[2008/04/30(Wed) 00:06] <itochan> 面接しなきゃいけなかった気がするんですよねぇ
[2008/04/30(Wed) 00:07] <Kuruma> いとちゃんあやうい＞＜
[2008/04/30(Wed) 00:07] <itochan> 知識だけはupdateしてるんだけど、現実がのんびりのんびりです…
[2008/04/30(Wed) 00:08] <itochan> （ちゃんと「届いてないんですが」は、気付いた去年の１１月から言ってますよ
[2008/04/30(Wed) 00:08] <Kuruma> ＞＜
[2008/04/30(Wed) 00:08] <Kuruma> 大事に至らないことを祈ります。。
[2008/04/30(Wed) 00:09] <itochan> はい。
[2008/04/30(Wed) 00:09] <itochan> のんびりしていいところと、悪いところがあるんです。
[2008/04/30(Wed) 00:09] <itochan> さっき見せたDrakeCMSなのですが、
[2008/04/30(Wed) 00:10] <itochan> languageファイル日本語版作りたいよー　と言って、放置して１年以上経ちましたｗ
[2008/04/30(Wed) 00:10] <Kuruma> Bu
[2008/04/30(Wed) 00:10] <itochan> いまだ影も形もありません
[2008/04/30(Wed) 00:10] <Kuruma> お役御免じゃんすか
[2008/04/30(Wed) 00:10] <itochan> プロジェクト内に、日本人誰もいないんじゃない？
[2008/04/30(Wed) 00:11] <Kuruma> あー
[2008/04/30(Wed) 00:11] <Kuruma> ありえそう。
[2008/04/30(Wed) 00:11] <Kuruma> しかしそろそろzero3の電池がつきそうです！
[2008/04/30(Wed) 00:11] <itochan> で、私がやることになってはいた。（決定していた）。　そこから１年。
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[2008/04/30(Wed) 00:11] <Kuruma> 決定したならあとはやるだけ！
[2008/04/30(Wed) 00:11] <itochan> あう。　じゃあよかったら調べてみてね＞DrakeCMS
[2008/04/30(Wed) 00:11] <Kuruma> とも、行かないか、
[2008/04/30(Wed) 00:11] <itochan> そして宣伝してみてね＞日本人にｗ
[2008/04/30(Wed) 00:12] <Kuruma> 起きて覚えてたら調べますｗ
[2008/04/30(Wed) 00:12] <Kuruma> おやすみなさいー
[2008/04/30(Wed) 00:12] <itochan> ^_^
[2008/04/30(Wed) 00:12] <itochan> おやすみなさい
[2008/04/30(Wed) 00:12] <itochan> 誰かしらやってくれればいいのに…
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[2008/04/30(Wed) 23:43] <itochan> こんばんは
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